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PaganiusI
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 06, 2019 10:03 am 
 

Needs research. - Veritas
Genre: Death/Gothic/Doom Metal
Location: Sangão, Santa Catarina, Brazil ?

Released the demo "Pura Veritas".
https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Veritas/51835

There is 0 info on this page aside from the location and the demo name and HellKnight has serious doubts they ever existed. He's very well connected to the local scene and no one knows anything about this band or has ever heard of them, so I thought instead of straight out deleting it, it's best the bring them up here.
Given the age of the submission, it's not unlikely it was some Myspace band or something that never was connected to the scene or something else was wrong with the submission and went through unnoticed. Who knows.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 06, 2019 1:40 pm 
 

Added. - Circle's End
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Genre: Heavy Metal ?
Location: Poitiers, Nouvelle-Aquitaine, France
Years Active: 1995-1999

Released the demo "Different Shades of Black", 1997.

The second incarnation of the band, Sendsirk, is already listed here on MA. Prior to the name change in 1999, they released the Different Shades of Black demo. A cursory Googling did not turn up anyone on the album, but a previous report on the Sendsrik page did include this promo blurb about the 1997 demo.

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Antioch wrote:
The other demo was released under said name, too, MCH.
https://www.metal-archives.com/albums/S ... End/697589
Looks like a self-titled demo to me, and can't have been released under Sendsirk anyway given the year of release.
This demo alone should warrant that the two entries be separated.

Edit: https://www.discogs.com/Circles-End-Cir ... e/11565444
Edit 2: I've asked the user who filed the report to rip the song and send it our way. I also referred him to this thread, as he seems to have more info about the band.

MetalCuresHeadaches wrote:
I don't know how I missed the demo already on the site, but hopefully he comes back with some samples we can review, especially since I see that the 1996 demo was only added here in 2018, meaning it probably wasn't judged in the original submission.

Antioch wrote:
I've let Paganius in on our convo. If I understand well, he has the A-side of demo 1 and the song that appears on the compilation off of demo 2. I thought that should be enough to judge the band if the three songs were undeniably metal, but thought that Pag would be of more help that myself, hence the CC.

Witcher wrote:
Edit: Regarding Circle's End: The band was recently submitted by a French user and is currently waiting in the queue: https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Ci ... 3540454334

Axel666MoWi wrote:
PS : for "Circle's end" I sent a message to one of the old member, let's see if he still has a copy of this, and I'll ask to have the unlisted releases of Sendsirk too. Well, Idk if my posts are well made but here we are.

Axel666MoWi wrote:
So, I talked with "Stéphane" he'll send me some audios. I have a couple of miscelaneous informations (I drop them here, do what you want with them).
- It was a college band.
- They changed name due to another band called "Circle's end"

They released : - an untitled demo with 4 tracks : https://www.discogs.com/fr/Circles-End- ... e/11565444
- a demo called "Different Shades of Black" composed of 5 tracks with one track appearing on the compilation "metal session"


Idk what is "metal session", but if I don't get any tracks from Circle's end, we'll have to find this compil.

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Edit 1 : Here is the "metal sessions" in question : https://www.discogs.com/fr/Various-Meta ... se/5971210
Circle's end is featured with the track : "A magical world" 05:00.

Edit 2 : And finally, I found an audio! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGd96NE-PR4
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 06, 2019 1:46 pm 
 

The other demo was released under said name, too, MCH.
https://www.metal-archives.com/albums/S ... End/697589
Looks like a self-titled demo to me, and can't have been released under Sendsirk anyway given the year of release.
This demo alone should warrant that the two entries be separated.

Edit: https://www.discogs.com/Circles-End-Cir ... e/11565444
Edit 2: I've asked the user who filed the report to rip the song and send it our way. I also referred him to this thread, as he seems to have more info about the band.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 06, 2019 11:52 pm 
 

I don't know how I missed the demo already on the site, but hopefully he comes back with some samples we can review, especially since I see that the 1996 demo was only added here in 2018, meaning it probably wasn't judged in the original submission.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 07, 2019 4:11 am 
 

I've let Paganius in on our convo. If I understand well, he has the A-side of demo 1 and the song that appears on the compilation off of demo 2. I thought that should be enough to judge the band if the three songs were undeniably metal, but thought that Pag would be of more help that myself, hence the CC.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 11, 2019 3:19 pm 
 

Halloween wrote:
Yeah, I didn't think it was going to make it. At least the list was narrowed down a bit :) Here's another I've wondered about for years:

Needs research. - Dark Cove (black metal, United Kingdom)
- Dark Cove (CD/Tape?, 2000?)
1. Navigating Thee Seas of Wrath
2. Mackeral Voyage
3. Splintered Timbers
4. Dark Cove Inn
- Sunken Treasure (CD, 2001?)
1. Intro
2. Navigating Thee Seas of Wrath
3. Mackeral Voyage (Idiot Flutes)
4. Double Munsun
5. Marooned
6. Doom Has breached the Hull
7. The Killingh
8. Mad Jack Rat-Boon
9. Variations for Dog and Typewriter
10. Sunken Trunken

Website
Discography
Myspace (Samples)

I actually added this band a long time ago, one of my first submissions. It was later deleted because I listened to the sample again and was like what the fuck not metal and the fact that I thought the physical release/band was dubious. I think oneyoudontknow contacted the band and got info when he added the releases. They had a weird limitation and one was released on tape and CD. He might know more. The years and formats are from memory only. Might be 2001 and 2002.

Anyway, I later found more samples and they actually turned out to be metal. I'm not really sure if the release actually exists or not, though. I bought a copy but they never sent me it. I even asked beforehand if it was still available and I got a reply saying yes, but they never mailed it out or replied to further e-mails. Might have just been ripping a guy off 6-7 years after it was released, which is why I'm now posting it here. :lol:


I was contacted in regard to this band, but I cannot find anything in my mail program (so far that would indicate that I could help with this matter. Sadly,I deleted by MySpace profile, with the obvious outcome that all of my mails vanished into the ether. I still have some old mail profiles. I see what I can do in regard to this band.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 15, 2019 5:17 am 
 

Regarding Heartattack: This review of their three songs demo, which includes three songs from the later Wake UP And Smell The Coffee release, describes them as playing glam/hard rock and sounding like a mix of AC/Dc, ˇGu¨ns'N' Roses and Poison. It does not look too promising for the band, I'm afraid...

https://christiantapeunderground.wordpr ... song-demo/

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 15, 2019 5:58 am 
 

Needs research. - Lafever
Genre: Heavy Metal/Hard Rock
Location: USA?
Lyrics: Christianity
The band released a self-titled demo cassette in 1993, Need a proof of physical releases and possibly more samples from the demo: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rYSEYMdAjqM

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 15, 2019 6:04 am 
 

Needs research. - Distant Thunder
Genre: Heavy Metal
location:
Lansing, Michigan, USA
The band released a demo cassette in 1990. Need samples from the demo and more infos about it. Not to be confused with the two other American metal bands named Distant Thunder.
https://christiantapeunderground.wordpr ... nder-demo/

Edit: It appears, that the 1990 demo was only intended to apply for concert at the Cornerstone festival, unfortunately. If anyone has some proofs, that the tape was ddistributed to tother people than just the festival organizers, please post it here.
The band has however a second demo called Peaches N Cream from 1994, which was released physically, so please, if anyone has samples from that demo, it would be greatly appreciated. The Peaches N Cream demo is recently for sale on Ebay: https://www.ebay.com/itm/DISTANT-THUNDE ... 2202346520

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y-z5JRokOOM
http://downthelinezine.com/cue/doku.php ... nt_thunder


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 17, 2019 2:22 pm 
 

Needs research. - Nonexistent Failure
Genre: Death metal/Metalcore ?
Location: Atlanta, Georgia, USA
Years Active: 1999-2003

Releases:
*In Loving Memory of Everything... I Never Had (demo, 2002)

Members:
*Brent Duckett - Drums (1999-2003)
*Jason Wisdom - Lead Vocals (1999-2003)
*Sean Cunningham - Rhythm Guitar (1999-2003) & Lead Guitar (2001-2003)
*Jon Star - Lead Guitar (1999-2003)
*Wes Gaither - bass (1999–2003) [some wiki sites have implied that there was a previous unnamed bassist with the group from 1999-2000, and Gaither joined afterwards]
*Unnamed second vocalist (1999-~2001)
*Jacob Franklin - Rhythm Guitar (2001-2003)



This is another one of those bands that is technically here under a new incarnation, but there's not enough info to add earlier version of the group. This was the first incarnation of what would eventually become The Remnant and Becoming the Archetype. They locally distributed a demo CD around 2002, but release quantity/distribution method is unclear. I've also never been able to hunt down a track list or samples, but they appear to have played the same mix of polished death metal and metalcore that their later incarnations did.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 18, 2019 2:09 pm 
 

Listening to that comp that features Eroticism, they still sound fine to me. Needs more proof regarding the release though.

Found another band on that comp that seems to be worth investigating:
Needs research. - Zeä~Nä
Genre: Heavy Metal/Hard Rock
Country: Japan
Known Members: Akira (based on the demo cover and this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rIlPuIwdf1c)

Seems like they released a demo tape in 1995, but I need more info on that.
https://www.discogs.com/Ze%C3%A4N%C3%A4 ... e/12159397

Judging by the cover it is related to this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Club_Citta
So probably a live recording.

Featured with two pretty metal tracks here:
https://www.discogs.com/Various-%E6%BC% ... se/7250480

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJT-hTxCg00
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YureHbq4tJ4

there's also a ballad on youtube:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88nA_cJit6U

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billm99uk wrote:
vkgy have a full line-up here: https://vk.gy/artists/zea-na/

The Japanese says 無料配布 デモテープ (Muryō haifu demo tape / free distribution demo tape) so, like the EVE tape earlier, it was given away 'free' to people who bought tickets and attended the show at Club Citta (Kawasaki) on 5/27/1995.

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Re-Zeä~Nä:
Since the tracks on youtube are rather ambiguous and aren't featured on any valid release (that we know of), I'd love to hear that tape, so if anyone finds that... ;)
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 18, 2019 3:21 pm 
 

PaganiusI wrote:
Found another band on that comp that seems to be worth investigating:
Needs research. - Zeä~Nä
Genre: Heavy Metal/Hard Rock
Country: Japan
Known Members: Akira (based on the demo cover and this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rIlPuIwdf1c)


vkgy have a full line-up here: https://vk.gy/artists/zea-na/

PaganiusI wrote:
Seems like they released a demo tape in 1995, but I need more info on that.
https://www.discogs.com/Ze%C3%A4N%C3%A4 ... e/12159397

Judging by the cover it is related to this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Club_Citta
So probably a live recording.


The Japanese says 無料配布 デモテープ (Muryō haifu demo tape / free distribution demo tape) so, like the EVE tape earlier, it was given away 'free' to people who bought tickets and attended the show at Club Citta (Kawasaki) on 5/27/1995.


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 18, 2019 6:27 pm 
 

Thanks for listening to Eroticism. Paganiusi.
Another of the Japanese bands, Kitsunebi, was recently submitted under its origianl Japanese transcription. the user was apparently able to find more info about their releases that way. I found another song by them, which appears on the compilation, which sounds pretty metal, and reported it on that submission. It is here:
https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/%E ... 3540454993

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 20, 2019 1:14 pm 
 

Please, could the bands Eve, Glace, Hot Coke and Double Edged be removed from the list, since they have all already been accepted? Thanks.

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 20, 2019 1:42 pm 
 

Witcher wrote:
Please, could the bands Eve, Glace, Hot Coke and Double Edged be removed from the list, since they have all already been accepted? Thanks.

Done.


Re-Zeä~Nä:
Since the tracks on youtube are rather ambiguous and aren't featured on any valid release (that we know of), I'd love to hear that tape, so if anyone finds that... ;)
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 21, 2019 4:58 am 
 

Added. - Municia
Genre: Thrash/Punk
Location: Slovakia
Releases: Released a CD titled Z popola with some samples on their Bandzone.

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Regarding Municia: their Facebook lists the shops, both stone shops and elelectronic ones, where you can oorder their both CDs. they also have a Cd "Koncentrovaný hnev" , which was released in 2011: https://cs-cz.facebook.com/pg/municia/about/
https://www.discogs.com/Municia-Koncent ... e/11328046

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Regarding Municia: The rejection note requested for more music samples from Z popola, other than the ones found on their bandzone, which are quite a bitch to find online.

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You have a PM...

putrevomitory wrote:
Municia is settled.
Has been reverted to the queue.
Thanks to Witcher.

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Regarding Municia: their Facebook lists the shops, both stone shops and elelectronic ones, where you can oorder their both CDs. they also have a Cd "Koncentrovaný hnev" , which was released in 2011: https://cs-cz.facebook.com/pg/municia/about/
https://www.discogs.com/Municia-Koncent ... e/11328046

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Regarding Municia: The rejection note requested for more music samples from Z popola, other than the ones found on their bandzone, which are quite a bitch to find online.

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 22, 2019 10:53 am 
 

putrevomitory wrote:
Regarding Municia: The rejection note requested for more music samples from Z popola, other than the ones found on their bandzone, which are quite a bitch to find online.

You have a PM...

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 23, 2019 5:39 pm 
 

Needs research. - Die Laughing

looking for more audio for Die Laughing UK, NWOBHM... long shot, slim chance, etc. but you never know.

http://nwobhm.com/die-laughing/

https://www.discogs.com/artist/3287577-Die-Laughing-3

Youtube: show


not to be confused with the frankly superb goth rockers of the same name, also from the UK.

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Regarding Die Laughing:
Their full single is downloadable here if you have an account:
http://heavymetalrarities.com/forum/vie ... e+laughing

Submit with that link and Az or I can check it out.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 24, 2019 4:42 pm 
 

Witcher wrote:
Updates regarding some bands posted by me:

Regarding Idare: Their former guitarist Maasa has a new solo project called sirene. He was also in Vampire Rose.
Official Sirene homepage: https://sirenet.official.ec/
Official Sirene Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCCzVxu ... 2oKGkDr1Qh
https://www.jpopasia.com/sirene/
https://vk.gy/artists/vampire-rose/


Maasa's twitter has an old feedback form Idare apparently handed out to customers: https://twitter.com/MARTHA_SIRENE/statu ... 5808277504
It gives a full line-up:
Vo: Michiya
Gu: Maasa
Gu: Ritsu
Ba: SEANA

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 24, 2019 7:38 pm 
 

Thanks a lot, as always.

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 25, 2019 3:15 am 
 

Municia is settled.
Has been reverted to the queue.
Thanks to Witcher.

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Antioch wrote:
Needs research. - PLANET EARTH [JPN] heavy metal/hard rock
Established musicians. Released a full-length titled Big Bang.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Planet-Earth-Bi ... 1105845419
YouTube vids:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UOpL7kUuNJU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ksOAe8U-KL0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Tcb29Gsc60
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lv9ZtKvQNyQ
Status: rejected. More samples needed.


Have you done a draft and just need more samples for that one? I've just picked up the CD from a Japanese auction site, so I could send a link when it turns up.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 26, 2019 11:19 am 
 

I made a draft and submitted it a while back, but you feel free to make a new draft and submit it if you think it qualifies and I'll fill in the blanks.

Azmodes wrote:
"We decided that more samples are needed here, even if that might prove unlikely. One for the research thread."

TheStormIRide listened to the samples, too.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 27, 2019 12:23 pm 
 

Regarding Die Laughing:
Their full single is downloadable here if you have an account:
http://heavymetalrarities.com/forum/vie ... e+laughing

Submit with that link and Az or I can check it out.


Also I really love how this thread is going at the moment. Nice work guys! You make it quite some work adding the comments to the bands they belong to ;)
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Needs research. - Prédikátor
Genre: Thrash Metal
Location: Szeged, Hungary
Members: Csaba Szabó - Guitars; Ferenc Vörös - Bass; Antal Polak - Drums; Molnár Szabolcs - Guitars, Vocals

Apparently released an album in 2010 called "Malomkő":
1. Az alkony Ősz eljövetele
2. Maradandó Akarat
3. Jövendőmondó
4. A Hit ellenszere
5. Útonjáró
6. Malomkő
7. Az őrület palotája
8. A múltat őrző halmok

Their guitarist added it to this Hungarian rock forum/wiki
http://predikator.rockerek.hu/
Sadly there is no download, just lyrics and a ReverbNation stream of some demo songs

https://www.reverbnation.com/pr%C3%89dik%C3%81tor/songs

There's also the youtube chanel of their singer with tons of live recordings of the band.
https://www.youtube.com/user/6deathcorp6/videos

The Myspace page from late 2010 doesn't say anything:
https://web.archive.org/web/20101229165 ... predikator

Needs proof for a public release of the album.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 28, 2019 6:36 pm 
 

Azmodes wrote:
The following Japanese bands were recently submitted to the queue, based around the same Youtube channel. There is always a bio provided, but I have no idea if it's trustworthy and how it's sourced. Needs some sleuthing to get a better picture (and more samples in many cases).

Needs research. - JΦZ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aUKxBIFpmhw
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Regarding Jéz: I found some links, which at least prove, that the Youtube bio is largely correct and that the band was active under the name Jéz Qold since 2010 for several years. Unfortunately all the info is in Japanese, so it would need someone, who can read the language, to get more possible info from it: http://98.xmbs.jp/Jozqold/?guid=on
http://sonic-project.com/mitoi/link_zimoto_hijklm.htm
So the band was active under the name JΦZ Qold from 2010 to 2013 The band name should be also corrected to JΦZ instead of Jéz, because it is the correct transcription and I was only using the incorrect one in my original submission, because I had some problems with copying and pasting the epsilon letter.

PaganiusI wrote:
That link gives me an error message, but the "main page" confirms that this band existed.


Found some video of JΦZ Qold performing in a music shop in Mita City, Ibaraki Prefecture, NE of Tokyo in 2011:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZAXAoZB ... &index=184

They don't seem very metal at this point in time if this track is typical (possible change of style on reformation?), but the front guy appears to be using the same model guitar as the pic on Rob M's original video so at least it confirms that part of the bio.

Also found a copy of the original compilation JΦZ were on for sale here: https://www.mbok.jp/item/item_484599219.html

Seems to have been released by a local music venue in Neyagawa City, Osaka Prefecture, so that may well be where they were originally based. (The track from 'Gideon Knights' also on this compilation)

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PaganiusI wrote:
Regarding Die Laughing:
Their full single is downloadable here if you have an account:
http://heavymetalrarities.com/forum/vie ... e+laughing

Submit with that link and Az or I can check it out.

The B-side also sounds more like rock. Plus, there's an entire full-length out there too we have yet to listen to.
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Needs research. - Forever Nite
Genre: Progressive Heavy Metal?
Location: Germany
Releases: They mention one titled "Promo CD" on their website. The samples can be found at their
YouTube channel.
Purported tracklist;
1. Children of the Night
2. Sweet Pain
3. Beyond Life and Dying
4. Creatures
5. Blind
6. If I...
7. Send Me an Angel (cover)

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Reading through their site, that "CD" was a temporary free download for subscribers to their newsletter. Some people were asking for physical CDs in their guestbook, but the band always responded that they don't have one yet. The download might be fine, but it would depend on its exact nature and quality.

putrevomitory wrote:
Going by what I heard on their YouTube, sounds like professional quality. Not that I have the download myself, so it's hard to figure out about it. There is also another forum that they linked on their affiliate sites, tried searching for anything there, but it was down for maintenance. Dunno if it'll ever be back by the look of things.

Witcher wrote:
Regarding Forever Nite: The band was formed in 2011 in Bamberg, Germany. They have also a Soundcloud page with full songs: https://www.musikzentrale.com/bands/forever-nite/
https://www.facebook.com/forevernite.band
https://soundcloud.com/forever-nite/
https://vimeo.com/user14938856

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Regarding Forever Nite: The SoundCloud doesn't seem to have all the tracks. Heinko from the band replied to my message on Facebook, and said the Promo CD was called Ignite.

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Reading through their site, that "CD" was a temporary free download for subscribers to their newsletter. Some people were asking for physical CDs in their guestbook, but the band always responded that they don't have one yet. The download might be fine, but it would depend on its exact nature and quality.
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Going by what I heard on their YouTube, sounds like professional quality. Not that I have the download myself, so it's hard to figure out about it. There is also another forum that they linked on their affiliate sites, tried searching for anything there, but it was down for maintenance. Dunno if it'll ever be back by the look of things.

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Regarding Forever Nite: The band was formed in 2011 in Bamberg, Germany. They have also a Soundcloud page with full songs: https://www.musikzentrale.com/bands/forever-nite/
https://www.facebook.com/forevernite.band
https://soundcloud.com/forever-nite/
https://vimeo.com/user14938856

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billm99uk wrote:
Azmodes wrote:
The following Japanese bands were recently submitted to the queue, based around the same Youtube channel. There is always a bio provided, but I have no idea if it's trustworthy and how it's sourced. Needs some sleuthing to get a better picture (and more samples in many cases).

Needs research. - JΦZ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aUKxBIFpmhw
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Regarding Jéz: I found some links, which at least prove, that the Youtube bio is largely correct and that the band was active under the name Jéz Qold since 2010 for several years. Unfortunately all the info is in Japanese, so it would need someone, who can read the language, to get more possible info from it: http://98.xmbs.jp/Jozqold/?guid=on
http://sonic-project.com/mitoi/link_zimoto_hijklm.htm
So the band was active under the name JΦZ Qold from 2010 to 2013 The band name should be also corrected to JΦZ instead of Jéz, because it is the correct transcription and I was only using the incorrect one in my original submission, because I had some problems with copying and pasting the epsilon letter.

PaganiusI wrote:
That link gives me an error message, but the "main page" confirms that this band existed.


Found some video of JΦZ Qold performing in a music shop in Mita City, Ibaraki Prefecture, NE of Tokyo in 2011:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZAXAoZB ... &index=184

They don't seem very metal at this point in time if this track is typical (possible change of style on reformation?), but the front guy appears to be using the same model guitar as the pic on Rob M's original video so at least it confirms that part of the bio.

Also found a copy of the original compilation JΦZ were on for sale here: https://www.mbok.jp/item/item_484599219.html

Seems to have been released by a local music venue in Neyagawa City, Osaka Prefecture, so that may well be where they were originally based. (The track from 'Gideon Knights' also on this compilation)


Thanks a lot for the additional info, the tracklisting for that ccompilation featuring Gideon Knights and Jéz is a big help. In that context, what would be needed most is some convincing proof of valid physical releases by both Gideon Knights and Jéz, which would confirm the info in the bio by Rob M.

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Regarding Forever Nite: The SoundCloud doesn't seem to have all the tracks. Heinko from the band replied to my message on Facebook, and said the Promo CD was called Ignite.

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Needs research. - Mutilus
Genre: Death Metal?
Location: Germany

Horror of Humans (1991, demo-tape, limited to 21 copies)
A 1. Stillbirth
A 2. Scream
B 3. Lutomi Tong
B 4. Horror of Humans

Human Are Still Just Lutum (?, demo-tape)
A 1. Evil Dead
A 2. Final Fight
B 3. Einfach Silentium
B 4. Mitten auf der Straß
B 5. Moribundus
B 6. Absurd
B 7. Eifeter
B 8. Müllbeutel Murder
B 9. Mutilus Servant

https://www.musik-sammler.de/artist/mutilus/

Also listed for sale by this guy (guess I'll try the given email address, EDIT: he responded, but unsurprisingly he already sold the tapes and doesn't remember anything about what they sounded like):
http://www.grind-core.nl/viewtopic.php?t=4798
https://forum.zwaremetalen.com/forum_topic/4064339/8
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The eBay account ('stevegarveyfan') that sells most of the Christian metal cassettes that Witcher has posted in here has a ton of stuff that hasn't been mentioned in this thread and is also not listed in the Archive. I've gone ahead and compiled more of his relevant listings here, so there's a more concise list that people can work from if they care to gamble on purchases, or we can filter out with other info. Minimal vetting has been done on this list so far, but I'll be helping to whittle it away in the coming days. Also note, his genre listings are slightly less than helpful, lots of them just "Metal" or "Metal/Rock". Not much I can do there, maybe we can find samples. I'll add more as I have the time.

Needs research. - Keith Anderson
Genre: "Metal"
Location: Holt, Michigan, USA
Price/Link: $28.76

Demo (Year Unknown, tape)
Tracklist:
Surrender
We Rock
Now You See Me...
I've Got to Tell You

Features session drums by John Heald of Armada fame. Cannot definitively link this "Keith Anderson" to any of the US artists currently on the site.

Not metal - soft alt rock. - Autumn Rose
Spoiler: show
Genre: "Rock/Metal"
Location: Irvine, California, USA
Price/Link: $35.20

Demo (1999, tape)
Tracklist:
unknown

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Witcher wrote:
Autumn Rose too - alternative rock: http://downthelinezine.com/cue/doku.php?id=autumn_rose

PaganiusI wrote:
The tracklist for Autumn Rose leads to this sample:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=965-fK5AJVk
-> Rock -> Removed


Not Metal.Valeri Barinov
Spoiler: show
Genre: "Metal/Rock"
Location: Russia
Price/Link: $84.55

The Trumpet Call (1985, tape)
Tracklist:
The Trumpet Call Is Heard All Over the World
The World Rejects God
Man Seeks a Way Out
Look at Golgotha
Christ Is Coming Back

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Valeri Barinov - melodic rock/aor, not metal: https://www.youtube.com/user/valery2577


Not Metal.Blackwell (Mr. Blackwell?)
Spoiler: show
Genre: "Metal"
Location: Unknown (presumably USA)
Price/Link: $44.22

Soul Man (1999, demo, tape)
Tracklist:
Soul Man
Chains
Clouds My Mind
Lust
Crawl
Love/Hate/Love
Drown
Frustration
5:15
Monkey See, Monkey Do

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Regarding Blackwell: The band's name is actually Mr.Blackwell, they have released at least three CDs and the style is predominantly nu-metal imo, though some mod input here could also be good: https://rateyourmusic.com/release/album ... l/soulman/
https://www.reverbnation.com/mrblackwell?popup_bio=true


Not Metal.Bone Chillin
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Genre: Groove Metal/Hard Rock?
Location: Texas, USA
Price/Link: $26.17

Demo (1997, tape)
Tracklist:
A1 Big Fat Baby
A2 Why
B1 Name Above
B2 Forever

Sketchy genre. The listing has Side A labelled as "Groovy Side" and Side B as "Heavy Side".

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Regarding Bone Chillin - I found their Soundclick page and all their songs ound to me like the post-grunge bands like godsmack. Of course, a mod's iopinion would also be needed here: https://www.soundclick.com/bands3/defau ... andID=3017
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Needs research. - Campion
Genre: "Metal"
Location: Lawerenceville, Georgia, USA
Price/Link: $26.17

Demo (Year Unknown, tape)
Tracklist:
Willy Loman
Way Station
Neuro-Logical
Contrition
Account
Past Thanks Giving
All Is Not Yet Lost

Not Metal.Electrik
Spoiler: show
Genre: "Glam Metal"
Location: Unknown (presumably USA)
Price/Link: $46.55

Have U Ever (1988, single, tape)
Tracklist:
Dear God
Have U Ever

Does not appear to have a cover, hand-written titles on labels. Seller has it listed as "Glam Metal", but there's possibly some hope, as a few of the other listings he has under "Glam Metal" are already on the Archive as Traditional/Heavy Metal.

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Electrik - glam/hard rock with Traci ferrie on bass, not metal. http://gospeldownloadfree.blogspot.com/ ... -rock.html


Not Metal.Eternal Destiny
Spoiler: show
Genre: "Metal/Hard Rock"
Location: Long Island, New York, USA
Price/Link: $37.05

Demo (~1995, tape)
Tracklist:
Love Waits
Rationalize
Give You All

Sketchy genre, listing says it sounds "a bit like the lighter side of Bride or Guardian". Also has a "For Promotional Use Only!" line on the label.

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Regarding Etrnal Destiny : I suspect it to be hard rock, since that is what the lighter albums of Bride and Guardian sound like. Reviewed in the scene press: http://cmnexus.org/profiles/Eternal_Destiny

Witcher wrote:
Regarding Eternal Destiny: I found the sngs, that appear on their demo and it's certainly not metal, I believe this style is called powerpop: https://www.reverbnation.com/eternaldestiny


Needs research. - From Nothing
Genre: "Metal"
Location: Unknown (presumably USA)
Price/Link: $27.55

Demo (1997, tape)
Tracklist:
unknown

No cover for the tape

Needs research. - Hammered
Genre: "Metal"
Location: Unknown (presumably USA)
Price/Link: $46.55

Demo (199?, tape)
Tracklist:
unknown

No cover for the listing, not sure if it's just this copy, or the release in general

Needs research. - Michael Hero
Genre: Heavy Metal/Hard Rock
Location: Sweden
Price/Link: $84.55

On Fire (Late 1980s, single, tape)
Tracklist:
On Fire

Pretty sure it's this guy, but there's no unlisted band under his given name on his artist page.

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Witcher wrote:
Michael Hero - potentially interesting, since it is the vocalist of Sons Of Thunder and The Hero:
http://cmnexus.org/profiles/Michael_Hero
https://www.metal-archives.com/artists/ ... elte/58349


Already listed.Holy Sceptre
Spoiler: show
Genre: Speed Metal
Location: St. Louis, Missouri, USA
Price/Link: $89.35

Knowledge of the Holy (1994, demo, tape, single-sided)
Tracklist:
1. Dark Deeds
2. The Return
3. Modern Day Jesus Freaks
4. Demoniac
5. Infanticide
6. Condomnation

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Holy Sceptre - Already listed in the database, please read the review: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qrRGoVMw1G8


Hardcore/Nu Metal. - Hubrisdebris
Spoiler: show
Genre: "Metal"
Location: Unknown (presumably USA)
Price/Link: $84.55

Hope (1996, demo, tape)
Tracklist:
Deep Thoughts
Charlie Got Chuck
Forced Humility
Hope

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Regarding HubrissDebris: They can be removed from the list, since they are a hardcore/nu-metal band. Please, read the review here: http://downthelinezine.com/cue/doku.php?id=hubrisdebris

PaganiusI wrote:
Regarding Hubrisdebris:
The site made me look up the band members and two of them play in the band CHD and an interview confirms the Hardcore/Nu Metal.
http://www.angelfire.com/in2/chd/history.html
->Removed


Needs research. - Iron Faith
Genre: Heavy Metal
Location: Unknown (presumably USA)
Price/Link: $65.55

Demo (1993, tape)
Tracklist:
Higher Power
Minister or Die
What If
Talk to Me Straight
I Take My Stand
Gimme a Shot of Truth
Blood Over Sin
For Angie
I Found Jesus
Go Ahead

Price/Link: $94.05
Demo (1996, tape)
Tracklist:
I Found Jesus
What If
look at Your Life
I Need a Vacation
Blood Over Sin
Minister or Die
Thunder
No Matter What You Do

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Regarding Iron Faith : I found possibly a song by ethem. The song is not any of their demos, but it could be just an early pre-demo song, since it was recorded in 1990. The musical style fifits the description, it is a christian band and their video was posted by their former bass player Patrick Goodwin: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YcAig-1IxeI


grunge rock/ballads. - King's Justice
Spoiler: show
Genre: Heavy Metal/Hard Rock
Location: Unknown (presumably USA)
Price/Link: $84.55

Cornerstone Mix (1991, tape)
Tracklist:
Ambition
Shine on Me
Six String

Possibly a live release, judging by the name (Cornerstone is/was a major US Christian music festival)

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King's Justice too: Listed as hard rock, the band has changed name to Feast Or Famine after the first demo and as you can hear, the Feast Or Famine stuff is really grungy hard rock and not metal: http://downthelinezine.com/cue/doku.php ... _s_justice
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_EtrSO6eXoI

PaganiusI wrote:
Removing King's Justice aswell, doubt that short demo holds any surprises music-wise.


Doesn't seem to be metal. - Mark Kozik
Spoiler: show
Genre: "Metal"
Location: Dryden, Michigan, USA
Price/Link: $65.55

Demo (1993-1995, tape)
Tracklist:
4 tracks, unknown titles

No cover, hand-written labels

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Regarding Mark Kozik: I found one Mark Kozik from Michigan, that could be very well that musician. He says he likes rock, country and metal in his profile. I'LL let the mods judge his music: https://markkozik.bandcamp.com/
https://www.google.com/search?source=hp ... 2gvQKrFKQ4

PaganiusI wrote:
That Mark Kozik on Bandcamp sure isn't metal, judging by the songs I listened to.
If we can confirm that he's the one we're looking for, I guess we could scratch it off the list?

Witcher wrote:
Well, according to his biography, he was born in 1967, which would match a first demo release in 1993. He also says on his Bandcamp page , that he is an amateur musician, who has regular daily job. He also lives in Dryden , Michagan, according to his Facebook page and is a christian. These are all strong hints, that he is the same guy. Please, see: https://www.google.com/search?source=hp ... rZ5cW505-g
https://www.facebook.com/mark.kozik.1


Needs research. - Legend of Sinai
Genre: "Metal"
Location: Unknown (presumably USA)
Price/Link: $84.55

Slave to Freedom (Early 1990s, demo tape)
Tracklist:
Fire Wall
Slave to Freedom
Crazy Christians

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Witcher wrote:


Needs research. - Legionaire
Genre: "Metal"
Location: Unknown (presumably USA)
Price/Link: $84.55

Ashes or Blood (1994, demo tape)
Tracklist:
The Burning Bed
To Be a Man
Comeback
Holy Mary
Just a Dream

Funk/Rock. - Liquid Messenger
Spoiler: show
Genre: Heavy Metal/Hard Rock?
Location: Unknown (presumably USA)
Price/Link: $65.55

Demo (199?, tape)
Tracklist:
This Is Not a Test
Mama
What's Up with That?
Home Sweet Heaven

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Regarding Liquid Messenger: They have one track from the demo on this compilation: https://www.discogs.com/artist/2127895-Liquid-Messenger

Witcher wrote:
Liquid Messenger can probably be removed too, since they play in their own words funky rock influenced by Red Hot Chili Peppers: http://downthelinezine.com/cue/doku.php ... _messenger

PaganiusI wrote:
Liquid Messenger:
Sample here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=akxxc_GmIxg
Funk/Rock. -> removed


Needs research. - Gary Wagner
Genre: "Metal/Rock"
Location: Unknown (presumably USA)
Price/Link: $14.25

Iron Cross (Year Unknown, tape)
Tracklist:
unknown

No cover, paper labels. Possibly a private release.
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Valeri Barinov - melodic rock/aor, not metal: https://www.youtube.com/user/valery2577
Electrik - glam/hard rock with Traci ferrie on bass, not metal. http://gospeldownloadfree.blogspot.com/ ... -rock.html
Holy Sceptre - Already listed in the database, please read the review: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qrRGoVMw1G8
Regarding Etrnal Destiny : I suspect it to be hard rock, since that is what the lighter albums of Bride and Guardian sound like. Reviewed in the scene press: http://cmnexus.org/profiles/Eternal_Destiny
Michael Hero - potentially interesting, since it is the vocalist of Sons Of Thunder and The Hero:
http://cmnexus.org/profiles/Michael_Hero
https://www.metal-archives.com/artists/ ... elte/58349
Regarding Liquid Messenger: They have one track from the demo on this compilation: https://www.discogs.com/artist/2127895-Liquid-Messenger
Regarding Autumn Rose: http://cmnexus.org/profiles/Autumn_Rose

Regarding Bone Chillin - I found their Soundclick page and all their songs ound to me like the post-grunge bands like godsmack. Of course, a mod's iopinion would also be needed here: https://www.soundclick.com/bands3/defau ... andID=3017

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Needs research. - Isolation Chamber
Genre: Industrial Metal
Location: Middlesbrough, UK
Year of Formation: 199?
Line-up: Darren O'Hara (vocals, guitars, words), Ashley Quinn (bass), Al Esis (drums)

Ancestral Breathing (1996?, format unknown)
They Have Failed
Ancestral Breathing
Angel Vein
Scarlet
Terminal (acoustic)
Terminal

A YouTube channel named IsolationChamber9 appears to be affiliated with the band. From the description of one of the videos:
Quote:
Isolation Chamber were an Industrial Metal band from Middlesbrough in the mid 90's with Ashley Quinn on bass, Darren O'Hara guitar/vocals/words and Al Esis on drums.


Very little is known about this band, and absolutely nothing has turned up on social media. Their only known release has neither a release date nor original format issued, but the music appears to have been uploaded in its entirety. If you squint really hard, you can read "Recorded at Studio 64 Middlesbrough 1996," so it's possible this was released in the mid-'90s, but we probably would need something physical.

What do we do in cases like this?
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Regarding Blackwell: The band's name is actually Mr.Blackwell, they have released at least three CDs and the style is predominantly nu-metal imo, though some mod input here could also be good: https://rateyourmusic.com/release/album ... l/soulman/
https://www.reverbnation.com/mrblackwell?popup_bio=true
Regarding Mark Kozik: I found one Mark Kozik from Michigan, that could be very well that musician. He says he likes rock, country and metal in his profile. I'LL let the mods judge his music: https://markkozik.bandcamp.com/
https://www.google.com/search?source=hp ... 2gvQKrFKQ4
Regarding Eternal Destiny: I found the sngs, that appear on their demo and it's certainly not metal, I believe this style is called powerpop: https://www.reverbnation.com/eternaldestiny

Edit: Regarding Circle's End: The band was recently submitted by a French user and is currently waiting in the queue: https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Ci ... 3540454334

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