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PaganiusI
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 06, 2019 8:52 am 
 

Should all be correctly attached to the individual bands.

I also removed the spoilers on the bands that are still under investigation. I know that makes the post rather lengthy, but the spoilers kinda interfere with the overall thread structure.


Muhammadabbadabba wrote:
What do we do in cases like this?

We post it in this thread and hope that one day we can find proof for a valid/public release.
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Witcher
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 06, 2019 1:23 pm 
 

Thanks for cleaning up the band list, Paganiusi. The Brazilian band Blood Warrior can also be removed, since it has been accepted today. Also, I have troubles straming stuff from Bandcamp, so a moderator should probably evaluate the stuff on the Bandcamp page of mark Kozik, since iI am convinced, that he is the musician in question and somehow doubt, that the music is predominantly metal, of course when you have time.
https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Bl ... 3540444733

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PaganiusI
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 06, 2019 2:19 pm 
 

That Mark Kozik on Bandcamp sure isn't metal, judging by the songs I listened to.
If we can confirm that he's the one we're looking for, I guess we could scratch it off the list?
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Witcher
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 06, 2019 5:07 pm 
 

PaganiusI wrote:
That Mark Kozik on Bandcamp sure isn't metal, judging by the songs I listened to.
If we can confirm that he's the one we're looking for, I guess we could scratch it off the list?

Well, according to his biography, he was born in 1967, which would match a first demo release in 1993. He also says on his Bandcamp page , that he is an amateur musician, who has regular daily job. He also lives in Dryden , Michagan, according to his Facebook page and is a christian. These are all strong hints, that he is the same guy. Please, see: https://www.google.com/search?source=hp ... rZ5cW505-g
https://www.facebook.com/mark.kozik.1

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klausader
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 07, 2019 11:24 am 
 

Hi dudes!

My band - https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Rattler/3540455260
My profile - https://www.metal-archives.com/users/klausader

Your moderator - https://www.metal-archives.com/users/0th

His 4th address to me - http://prntscr.com/obq323

The question is why does this moderator prevent me from filling in information on my own group, pointing to me?
Who knows the story of their own group. I, or he?
Please speak out.
Sincerely, Rattler Group Manager

Cheers from Ukraine \m/

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PaganiusI
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 07, 2019 2:25 pm 
 

That's obviously the worst thread in which you could've posted that, honestly...

And you published it on Bandcamp way after 2013, we go with what actually happened. It's not unusual for bands to set a false release date to bandcamp (like the original date for stuff that was released in the 90s which is impossible to be released on bandcamp back then).

Can you prove to us that it was released in 2013 on a different platform?
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ThStealthP
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 09, 2019 11:29 am 
 

Needs research. - Koldt
Country : Spain
Genre: Funeral Doom/Death Metal
Status : Unknown
Releases : Only Ashes Will Remains (demo) from 2010, I need physical proofs of this releases.
Samples here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-Dr2kwd2oE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UInpHhqRuiA

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Regarding Koldt:
https://myspace.com/koldtdoom
There's a total of 4 tracks on their Myspace.

Looking at their Myspace profile from Mid 2010, they just uploaded a demo songs called "Empty Life"
https://web.archive.org/web/20100629000 ... /koldtdoom

No trace of a supposed demo that was released that year.

Also that youtube description of Melangia says "This is our second demo, Melangia"...suggesting that it's just that one song?

What's your source for the "Only Ashes Will Remains" demo?

ThStealthP wrote:

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klausader
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 09, 2019 5:19 pm 
 

PaganiusI wrote:
That's obviously the worst thread in which you could've posted that, honestly...

And you published it on Bandcamp way after 2013, we go with what actually happened. It's not unusual for bands to set a false release date to bandcamp (like the original date for stuff that was released in the 90s which is impossible to be released on bandcamp back then).

Can you prove to us that it was released in 2013 on a different platform?

Hello, bro\m/
Everything is indicated in the biography of the group http://prntscr.com/ocsw2h. Is it my fault that your Chinese moderator does not read biographies? https://www.facebook.com/rattler2011

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 09, 2019 6:52 pm 
 

klausader wrote:
PaganiusI wrote:
That's obviously the worst thread in which you could've posted that, honestly...

And you published it on Bandcamp way after 2013, we go with what actually happened. It's not unusual for bands to set a false release date to bandcamp (like the original date for stuff that was released in the 90s which is impossible to be released on bandcamp back then).

Can you prove to us that it was released in 2013 on a different platform?

Hello, bro\m/
Everything is indicated in the biography of the group http://prntscr.com/ocsw2h. Is it my fault that your Chinese moderator does not read biographies? https://www.facebook.com/rattler2011


This biography indicates that the EP was recorded in 2013. However, what we are asking for is that the album was released in that year.

How was this album released on 2013? On what platform? Was it uploaded to a site for digital distribution? Was a physical release made and sold somewhere? Is this documented anywhere other than the band's own biography? What we require, in order to document a release date, is proof that it was distributed to the public at that time.

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klausader
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 10, 2019 11:39 am 
 

Zodijackyl wrote:
klausader wrote:
PaganiusI wrote:
That's obviously the worst thread in which you could've posted that, honestly...

And you published it on Bandcamp way after 2013, we go with what actually happened. It's not unusual for bands to set a false release date to bandcamp (like the original date for stuff that was released in the 90s which is impossible to be released on bandcamp back then).

Can you prove to us that it was released in 2013 on a different platform?

Hello, bro\m/
Everything is indicated in the biography of the group http://prntscr.com/ocsw2h. Is it my fault that your Chinese moderator does not read biographies? https://www.facebook.com/rattler2011


This biography indicates that the EP was recorded in 2013. However, what we are asking for is that the album was released in that year.

How was this album released on 2013? On what platform? Was it uploaded to a site for digital distribution? Was a physical release made and sold somewhere? Is this documented anywhere other than the band's own biography? What we require, in order to document a release date, is proof that it was distributed to the public at that time.

This mini album was recorded in the summer of 2013. The exact date coincides with the moment when the vocalist of the band Gennady distributed this album on SondCloud & in his group on Facebook.
I provide you personally to find the exact release date (which I have already indicated THREE times on this site), since you do not believe me and your colleague constantly for some reason corrects the year of publication from 2013 to 2019.
All references to the profiles of our team have long been listed here https://www.metal-archives.com/link/aja ... 3540455260

Good luck, Andrey

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PaganiusI
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 10, 2019 11:58 am 
 

klausader wrote:
This mini album was recorded in the summer of 2013. The exact date coincides with the moment when the vocalist of the band Gennady distributed this album on SondCloud & in his group on Facebook.
I provide you personally to find the exact release date (which I have already indicated THREE times on this site), since you do not believe me and your colleague constantly for some reason corrects the year of publication from 2013 to 2019.
All references to the profiles of our team have long been listed here https://www.metal-archives.com/link/aja ... 3540455260

Good luck, Andrey

The Soundcloud release is Stream-only and therefore NOT a valid release by our standards. Digital releases must be available for FULL download. The first digital version that is available for download seems to be the Bandcamp release and should therefore be the one listed here (INCLUDING release date). In addition to that Soundcloud says the songs were uploaded 3 years ago, which would be 2015/2016....

Same goes for your Demo 2012 which might need to be deleted aswell.
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klausader
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 11, 2019 4:11 pm 
 

PaganiusI wrote:
The Soundcloud release is Stream-only and therefore NOT a valid release by our standards. Digital releases must be available for FULL download. The first digital version that is available for download seems to be the Bandcamp release and should therefore be the one listed here (INCLUDING release date). In addition to that Soundcloud says the songs were uploaded 3 years ago, which would be 2015/2016....

Same goes for your Demo 2012 which might need to be deleted aswell.

Oh, mate, I'm very glad you started reading the biography & thinking.
You will need more accurate information on this group - contact me or the musicians of the our band.
Hello from sunny Kiev.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 11, 2019 4:32 pm 
 

So...ypu agree that you added false data?
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 14, 2019 3:48 am 
 

Needs research. - The Choice
Genre: Heavy/Power Metal
Country: USA
Lyrics: Christianity
Released the demo cassette "On Solid Rock We Stand" in 1990. Need song samples from the demo.
https://christiantapeunderground.wordpr ... -we-stand/

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PaganiusI
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 15, 2019 4:29 am 
 

Regarding Koldt:
https://myspace.com/koldtdoom
There's a total of 4 tracks on their Myspace.

Looking at their Myspace profile from Mid 2010, they just uploaded a demo songs called "Empty Life"
https://web.archive.org/web/20100629000 ... /koldtdoom

No trace of a supposed demo that was released that year.

Also that youtube description of Melangia says "This is our second demo, Melangia"...suggesting that it's just that one song?

What's your source for the "Only Ashes Will Remains" demo?
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ThStealthP
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 15, 2019 9:24 am 
 

This was my source:
https://www.spirit-of-metal.com/es/albu ... .../183578

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billm99uk
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 15, 2019 4:03 pm 
 

Needs research. - Regenerate
Location : Osaka, Japan
Genre: Heavy Metal (?)
Years active: 2001-2005
Status : Split-up
Releases : Three numbered demo CD-R's in 2001, 2002 & 2005 & two compilation appearances:
"Pile Of Corpses / Fall Down To Hell" on "The Red Hot Burning Hell Vol.1" (Lights Out Records, 2000)
"Creature/Rest in Peace" on "Metal Justice" (Metal Justice, 2000)

I have the four songs from the compilations but need samples specifically from the demos, as they're the only valid releases The band did actually provide samples at their old web page here:

https://web.archive.org/web/20031015143 ... /opus.html

And later, at a newer web page here:

https://web.archive.org/web/20050903234 ... /audio.htm

But the links appear dead, broken or I haven't the correct software installed.

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PaganiusI
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 21, 2019 7:37 am 
 

Yeah, those songs are no longer on that server (if he's still up, which I don't think he is).

I also try to contact A Few Seasons Later...
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 21, 2019 8:28 am 
 

Added. - Corvomorto
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Genre: Melodic Death Metal
Location: Guadalajara, Mexico
Known Members: Joey (Joseph Moore?) - Bass, Armand (Armando Méndez) - Guitars, Riffuz (Edgar Navarro) - Guitar, Danny (Daniel Hernández) - Drums, Ramón Moralez - Bass, Vocals

Apparently released a demo called "Disease of Life" in 2001.

Samples can be found on Joey's youtube chanel: https://www.youtube.com/user/warrant69x ... shelf_id=0

Homepage: http://www.corvomorto.freeservers.com/index.html
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/corvomortometal/
Myspace: https://myspace.com/corvomortoband

They were submitted by a band member in 2013 it seems. He gave this as the tracklist:
1. Disease of Life 03:11
2. A Demon's Payback 04:39
3. Killing Desire 05:18
4. Stupid of mind 03:09
5. The Lord 03:55
6. Corvomorto 04:28
7. Raining blood 03:42
8. Song of Rage 03:38

No info on how it was released.
I suppose someone with spanish skillz could try and contact them.

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 21, 2019 1:15 pm 
 

Needs research. - Vampanera
Location: Japan
Genre: Power/Speed Metal (?)
Years active: 1996-1998
Status: Split-up

Releases:
Zero (cassette demo, 1997?) (front cover) (cassette insert)
Tracklist:
1. 曼珠沙華 (Manjushage)
2. Paranoia
3. Lonely-Night

Vampanera (VHS video, 1997) (front cover) (back cover)
Tracklist:
1. 曼珠沙華 (Manjushage)
2. 軋轢 (Atsureki)
3. Alexia (live video here)

Members:
Vocal: KIZAKI (MeiNIAC → VAMPANERA →Aste*Risk)
Guitar: NAVE
Bass: KAPPA (MeiNIAC → VAMPANERA)
Drums: Julie

In need of audio samples and information about their remaining demos.

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Regarding Vampanera: Two members (the vocalist and bassist) have also played in the visual kei band Meiniac and the Meiniax demo also seems to feature the track Lonely Night. Maybe it helps you further. Info about Meiniac: http://chaotic-dix.blogspot.com/2017/05 ... rafia.html
https://www.last.fm/music/MeiNIAC
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4hWMReAd-XY
https://rateyourmusic.com/release/singl ... %E7%B8%81/
Edit: Three Vampanera songs, I think , this could be enough as a proof of metalness: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HWpsnZEqjoQ
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCY7uKj ... duYnQwM04w

billm99uk wrote:
Interesting comments there:
L1 (month ago): Can you tell me about the members of Vampanera? Wasn't NAVE a member from the beginning? And Julie left? Was it in 1997?

Takamidori san (1 week ago) NAVE (myself, now 'Takamidori san') joined in the middle. And guitarist NAVE withdrew sometime after Julie. Was it around 1999? We weren't very popular but I'm glad you remember us. Thank you very much.

manabudark Dix (2 years ago) great !!!!! (* ω`人) Can I ask you a question !!! Do you have any of Vampanera's demo tapes, I'm only aware of the one. (ZERO)

Takamidori san (1 week ago) Are you a fan of Vocalist KIZAI? She seems to be active still. Thank you very much. I'm sorry but I have no cassette tapes nowadays. . . haha!

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 21, 2019 7:01 pm 
 

Regarding Vampanera: Two members (the vocalist and bassist) have also played in the visual kei band Meiniac and the Meiniax demo also seems to feature the track Lonely Night. Maybe it helps you further. Info about Meiniac: http://chaotic-dix.blogspot.com/2017/05 ... rafia.html
https://www.last.fm/music/MeiNIAC
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4hWMReAd-XY
https://rateyourmusic.com/release/singl ... %E7%B8%81/
Edit: Three Vampanera songs, I think , this could be enough as a proof of metalness: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HWpsnZEqjoQ
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCY7uKj ... duYnQwM04w

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billm99uk
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 22, 2019 7:49 am 
 

Witcher wrote:
Regarding Vampanera:
Edit: Three Vampanera songs, I think , this could be enough as a proof of metalness: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HWpsnZEqjoQ
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCY7uKj ... duYnQwM04w


Interesting comments there:
L1 (month ago): Can you tell me about the members of Vampanera? Wasn't NAVE a member from the beginning? And Julie left? Was it in 1997?

Takamidori san (1 week ago) NAVE (myself, now 'Takamidori san') joined in the middle. And guitarist NAVE withdrew sometime after Julie. Was it around 1999? We weren't very popular but I'm glad you remember us. Thank you very much.

manabudark Dix (2 years ago) great !!!!! (* ω`人) Can I ask you a question !!! Do you have any of Vampanera's demo tapes, I'm only aware of the one. (ZERO)

Takamidori san (1 week ago) Are you a fan of Vocalist KIZAI? She seems to be active still. Thank you very much. I'm sorry but I have no cassette tapes nowadays. . . haha!

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PaganiusI
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 24, 2019 3:56 pm 
 

Needs research. - Cruelentus
Genre: Black Metal
Location: Sweden?
Members: ???

Supposedly released the album "Reborn Through Christian Blood" in 2010.

Some songs:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BIYVPgEsOMQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ep_cXeYM-x4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SlpHU-gqyNc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KL3ZclOzOPI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BEjEHyUSAu8

Tracklist given by the original submitter in 2013:
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1. 18 Sins 03:17
2. Descending on Karon 03:40
3. The End of a World 05:28
4. Raping Nuns 02:22
5. Satanic Hunger 03:47
6. Death is Near 00:16
7. Satan 02:04
8. Reborn 01:37
9. I Am 03:11
10. Zag Netram 02:58
11. Before the Final Execution 01:09
12. Streams of Melted Rocks 06:16
13. The Father, the Son, the Unholy Ghost 04:19


Got a last.fm profile that gives Sweden as the band's location.
https://www.last.fm/music/Cruelentus
The info was added by the guy who also uploaded the songs.

There's a slim chance this band is somehow related to this one:
https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Skymning/7122
Since that's the only other band featured on that guy's youtube chanel.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 25, 2019 11:18 am 
 

Yet another old submission that was left rotting for 6 years.

Needs research. - Ett Lik
Genre: Black Metal?
Location: Sweden?

Released the single "Violence in E Minor" in 2012. Proof is good, given that it is on Discogs (with owners and a sale history) and there are pictures of the tape online.
https://www.discogs.com/Ett-Lik-Violenc ... se/5627604
https://www.flickr.com/photos/123606587 ... 863876030/

Distributed by https://www.metal-archives.com/labels/T ... Records/90

All that's missing is the actual music.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 27, 2019 5:48 am 
 

Added. - Zipang
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Country: Japan
Genre: Power/Speed Metal?
The band was previously named Pure aand Puer, before changing name to Zipang. To my surprise, they seem to play metal as Zipang, unlike the two previous incarnations of the band. The most prominent member of the band was the drummer Ken2, who later went to Volcano. I would need samples from their only full length album Back To No Fear to confirm, that it is consequently metal.
sample: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f8YQycA8Lxg
https://www.discogs.com/Zipang-%E5%A4%A ... e/13850066
https://puresound.co.jp/user_data/sp_ar ... ipang&bck=

I have already found a video with three other songs from the album, bit I can't get it to play, so I would like also to know, if any of you could play and review it: https://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm12011370

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This seems to be a stream of the full album:
https://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm5490346

And it plays for me, just takes ages to load. But it's alread 0:40, so I'll check it after I woke up.

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Thanks to OpsiusCato's contacts in the local scene, I was able to confirm VR for Corvomorto -> added.
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Axel666MoWi
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 03, 2019 4:27 pm 
 

theunrelentingattack wrote:

God Awful: Labeled with tags of Metallica and Iron Maiden. This one looks less shady than the first two.



Hi don't know what God Awful was this one but I just added one which is death/thrash metal : https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Go ... 3540456500
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 03, 2019 4:30 pm 
 

By the way, I don't know if I'm authorized to post this but, if you need anything related to underground french metal scene, I can dig out informations, and try to buy/contact releases from here. So if anyone knows by name a french metal band which is obscure with not a lot of informations, I may be able to make work my contacts!
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Axel666MoWi wrote:
By the way, I don't know if I'm authorized to post this but, if you need anything related to underground french metal scene, I can dig out informations, and try to buy/contact releases from here. So if anyone knows by name a french metal band which is obscure with not a lot of informations, I may be able to make work my contacts!

Well, from our point of view, you're very authorized to post this here. Might come in handy! ;)
We currently have 3 French bands in need of further research if you want to start some digging :)
viewtopic.php?f=17&t=104654&p=2849821
viewtopic.php?f=17&t=104654&p=2625691
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 03, 2019 6:23 pm 
 

Needs research. - Lesion
Genre: Death/Thrash Metal?
Location: Oxnard, California
Known members: Tommy Savage - Bass; Tony Swars - Drums

Supposedly released a demo tape in 1994 by Open Wound Music. All I got is a photo and the info the original submitter provided

Wounds of the World
1. Demented Dimension
2. Brutality of Man
3. Civilized Hell
4. Death March

Photo: https://i1323.photobucket.com/albums/u5 ... 78c1c3.jpg

The demo tape might look sketchy at first, but the submitter provided similar photographic proof in all his submissions, 4 of which were accepted because there also was a bandcamp page or something. So I'm fairly certain that it's a real release, BUT some more info would be highly appreciated and I couldn't find any samples.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 03, 2019 6:39 pm 
 

Regarding Zipang:

This seems to be a stream of the full album:
https://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm5490346

And it plays for me, just takes ages to load. But it's alread after midnight here, so I'll check it after I woke up.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 04, 2019 12:03 am 
 

PaganiusI wrote:
Axel666MoWi wrote:
By the way, I don't know if I'm authorized to post this but, if you need anything related to underground french metal scene, I can dig out informations, and try to buy/contact releases from here. So if anyone knows by name a french metal band which is obscure with not a lot of informations, I may be able to make work my contacts!

Well, from our point of view, you're very authorized to post this here. Might come in handy! ;)
We currently have 3 French bands in need of further research if you want to start some digging :)
viewtopic.php?f=17&t=104654&p=2849821
viewtopic.php?f=17&t=104654&p=2625691
viewtopic.php?f=17&t=104654&p=2534555


Ok thanks, I'm on the spot!
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 04, 2019 12:30 am 
 

Needs research. - Wendigo
Genre: Heavy/Thrash Metal
Country : Finland
Audio : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1eZO6vbd4fA

We just need a "proof of release" since the audio has been uploaded. It was found on HMR, but not sure.

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PS : for "Circle's end" I sent a message to one of the old member, let's see if he still has a copy of this, and I'll ask to have the unlisted releases of Sendsirk too. Well, Idk if my posts are well made but here we are.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 04, 2019 12:56 am 
 

Halloween wrote:
Here's another band. Maybe someone here knows more about it.

Needs research. - Forlorn (France, black metal)
Lathspell (Tape, 2014, Hypogea Maleficare)
Side Alpha:
1. Cainite
2. Cainite Part 2
3. Cainite Part 1 & 2
4. Fils De Caien
5. Cainite
6. Freeze World
7. War Spirit
8. Strange Dream
Side Omega:
9. Apocalypse With Cain
10. Warspirit
11. Alone
12. Apocalypse With Cain
13. Warspirit

This is pre-Aryos, so I don't doubt it being black metal. The discogs page however lists it as unofficial. The page is a mess, though. The owner of the label is the second contributor, Saturn156, who created the mess with vandalism and is also a known bootlegger. Aryos's facebook doesn't mention this release, either. It's probably unofficial or at least disputed, which would explain the vandalism, but might be worth looking into.

It exists at least:
https://plus.google.com/+TourdeGarde/posts/fPpMWGUgiLQ
http://www.gemm.com/store/CHEAPTHRILLS/ ... 1641871982

[Updated by PaganiusI on Oct. 9th, 2018]


Ahah, just saw that, this is really funny, this label is the past name of my actual label! I sent them a message, I'll keep you up.
Just for the "story", Hypogea Maleficare, was ran by two guys, one day, one of them has stolen a huge part of the "distro" (don't even know if this word is english, sorry). Then, the other guy decided to create Hypogea Invictus, on the ashes of HM. He his someone we can trust in, I'm waiting for his answer.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 04, 2019 1:42 am 
 

Needs research. - Igniter
Genre: Heavy Metal
Location: SanAntonio, Texas, USA
Lyrics: Christianity

The band released a demo tape "Fall Of The Nation" in 1996, need samples from that demo.
https://christiantapeunderground.wordpr ... he-nation/
https://www.ebay.com/itm/IGNITER-FALL-O ... 100623.m-1

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 04, 2019 3:20 am 
 

MetalCuresHeadaches wrote:
Needs research. - Circle's End
Genre: Heavy Metal ?
Location: Poitiers, Nouvelle-Aquitaine, France
Years Active: 1995-1999

Released the demo "Different Shades of Black", 1997.

The second incarnation of the band, Sendsirk, is already listed here on MA. Prior to the name change in 1999, they released the Different Shades of Black demo. A cursory Googling did not turn up anyone on the album, but a previous report on the Sendsrik page did include this promo blurb about the 1997 demo.



So, I talked with "Stéphane" he'll send me some audios. I have a couple of miscelaneous informations (I drop them here, do what you want with them).
- It was a college band.
- They changed name due to another band called "Circle's end"

They released : - an untitled demo with 4 tracks : https://www.discogs.com/fr/Circles-End- ... e/11565444
- a demo called "Different Shades of Black" composed of 5 tracks with one track appearing on the compilation "metal session"


Idk what is "metal session", but if I don't get any tracks from Circle's end, we'll have to find this compil.

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Edit 1 : Here is the "metal sessions" in question : https://www.discogs.com/fr/Various-Meta ... se/5971210
Circle's end is featured with the track : "A magical world" 05:00.

Edit 2 : And finally, I found an audio! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGd96NE-PR4
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 04, 2019 3:35 am 
 

Axel666MoWi wrote:
MetalCuresHeadaches wrote:
Needs research. - Circle's End
Genre: Heavy Metal ?
Location: Poitiers, Nouvelle-Aquitaine, France
Years Active: 1995-1999

Released the demo "Different Shades of Black", 1997.

The second incarnation of the band, Sendsirk, is already listed here on MA. Prior to the name change in 1999, they released the Different Shades of Black demo. A cursory Googling did not turn up anyone on the album, but a previous report on the Sendsrik page did include this promo blurb about the 1997 demo.



So, I talked with "Stéphane" he'll send me some audios. I have a couple of miscelaneous informations (I drop them here, do what you want with them).
- It was a college band.
- They changed name due to another band called "Circle's end"

They released : - an untitled demo with 4 tracks : https://www.discogs.com/fr/Circles-End- ... e/11565444
- a demo called "Different Shades of Black" composed of 5 tracks with one track appearing on the compilation "metal session"


Idk what is "metal session", but if I don't get any tracks from Circle's end, we'll have to find this compil.

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Edit : Here is the "metal sessions" in question : https://www.discogs.com/fr/Various-Meta ... se/5971210
Circle's end is featured with the track : "A magical world" 05:00.

I have already mentioned it earlier, but the band CirCircle's End has already been submitted and is currently pending in the queue, awaiting a review. You can report the info , which you have gathered, directly there and support the submission in this way, I did the same with the Japanese band Kitsunebi and it got accepted later on. you will also get at least a pont for your efforts in ththis way. See here: https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Ci ... 3540454334

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 04, 2019 3:37 am 
 

Witcher wrote:

I have already mentioned it earlier, but the band CirCircle's End has already been submitted and is currently pending in the queue, awaiting a review. You can report the info , which you have gathered, directly there and support the submission in this way, I did the same with the Japanese band Kitsunebi and it got accepted later on. you will also get at least a pont for your efforts in ththis way. See here: https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Ci ... 3540454334


Got it!
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 04, 2019 10:37 am 
 

Regarding Forlorn (bm - France), I got my answers. So "Saturn" released this after the stealing of the label's merch, at this time he was making bootlegs with super limited copies (don't know how many). Before that he talked a lot about Forlorn, but as it was released after the internal problems, the tape from Fornolrn is 80% bootleg. However, I sent a message to Aryos, to confirm it, but no answer yet.


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Aryos told me "It's not official but not unofficial too [...] I gave them the authorisation to produce it, it's half official, but for many reasons it can't be fully official".

It's not helping a lot, the band itself is not sure about the authenticity of this release by Hypogea Maleficare. However he told me that official tapes of rehearsals were made. Nothing more.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 07, 2019 8:02 am 
 

Needs research. - The Aftermath (UK), not to be confused with the band of the same name already on the archives, or at least another band I know of (same country/same name/very similar style)...

rejected with the following message: "Was this ever released officially? Seems like this could have been a private release, given that this album appears to be a promo. Maybe a band for the research thread?"

discogs: https://www.discogs.com/The-Aftermath-S ... e/13767925

youtube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FCFh5AqlCEE

bio on some kind of wayback machine website which claims they had an extensive discog: http://www.spanglefish.com/theaftermath/index.asp
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