Should all be correctly attached to the individual bands.

I also removed the spoilers on the bands that are still under investigation. I know that makes the post rather lengthy, but the spoilers kinda interfere with the overall thread structure.



We post it in this thread and hope that one day we can find proof for a valid/public release.

Thanks for cleaning up the band list, Paganiusi. The Brazilian band Blood Warrior can also be removed, since it has been accepted today. Also, I have troubles straming stuff from Bandcamp, so a moderator should probably evaluate the stuff on the Bandcamp page of mark Kozik, since iI am convinced, that he is the musician in question and somehow doubt, that the music is predominantly metal, of course when you have time.
https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Bl ... 3540444733

That Mark Kozik on Bandcamp sure isn't metal, judging by the songs I listened to.
If we can confirm that he's the one we're looking for, I guess we could scratch it off the list?

Well, according to his biography, he was born in 1967, which would match a first demo release in 1993. He also says on his Bandcamp page , that he is an amateur musician, who has regular daily job. He also lives in Dryden , Michagan, according to his Facebook page and is a christian. These are all strong hints, that he is the same guy. Please, see: https://www.google.com/search?source=hp ... rZ5cW505-g
https://www.facebook.com/mark.kozik.1

Hi dudes!

My band - https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Rattler/3540455260
My profile - https://www.metal-archives.com/users/klausader

Your moderator - https://www.metal-archives.com/users/0th

His 4th address to me - http://prntscr.com/obq323

The question is why does this moderator prevent me from filling in information on my own group, pointing to me?
Who knows the story of their own group. I, or he?
Please speak out.
Sincerely, Rattler Group Manager

Cheers from Ukraine \m/

That's obviously the worst thread in which you could've posted that, honestly...

And you published it on Bandcamp way after 2013, we go with what actually happened. It's not unusual for bands to set a false release date to bandcamp (like the original date for stuff that was released in the 90s which is impossible to be released on bandcamp back then).

Can you prove to us that it was released in 2013 on a different platform?

Needs research. - Koldt
Country : Spain
Genre: Funeral Doom/Death Metal
Status : Unknown
Releases : Only Ashes Will Remains (demo) from 2010, I need physical proofs of this release.
Samples here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-Dr2kwd2oE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UInpHhqRuiA

Related comments:

Hello, bro\m/
Everything is indicated in the biography of the group http://prntscr.com/ocsw2h. Is it my fault that your Chinese moderator does not read biographies? https://www.facebook.com/rattler2011

This biography indicates that the EP was recorded in 2013. However, what we are asking for is that the album was released in that year.

How was this album released on 2013? On what platform? Was it uploaded to a site for digital distribution? Was a physical release made and sold somewhere? Is this documented anywhere other than the band's own biography? What we require, in order to document a release date, is proof that it was distributed to the public at that time.

This mini album was recorded in the summer of 2013. The exact date coincides with the moment when the vocalist of the band Gennady distributed this album on SondCloud & in his group on Facebook.
I provide you personally to find the exact release date (which I have already indicated THREE times on this site), since you do not believe me and your colleague constantly for some reason corrects the year of publication from 2013 to 2019.
All references to the profiles of our team have long been listed here https://www.metal-archives.com/link/aja ... 3540455260

Good luck, Andrey

The Soundcloud release is Stream-only and therefore NOT a valid release by our standards. Digital releases must be available for FULL download. The first digital version that is available for download seems to be the Bandcamp release and should therefore be the one listed here (INCLUDING release date). In addition to that Soundcloud says the songs were uploaded 3 years ago, which would be 2015/2016....

Same goes for your Demo 2012 which might need to be deleted aswell.

Oh, mate, I'm very glad you started reading the biography & thinking.
You will need more accurate information on this group - contact me or the musicians of the our band.
Hello from sunny Kiev.

So...ypu agree that you added false data?

Added. - The Choice

Regarding Koldt:
https://myspace.com/koldtdoom
There's a total of 4 tracks on their Myspace.

Looking at their Myspace profile from Mid 2010, they just uploaded a demo songs called "Empty Life"
https://web.archive.org/web/20100629000 ... /koldtdoom

No trace of a supposed demo that was released that year.

Also that youtube description of Melangia says "This is our second demo, Melangia"...suggesting that it's just that one song?

What's your source for the "Only Ashes Will Remains" demo?

This was my source:
https://www.spirit-of-metal.com/es/albu ... .../183578

Needs research. - Regenerate
Location : Osaka, Japan
Genre: Heavy Metal (?)
Years active: 2001-2005
Status : Split-up
Releases : Three numbered demo CD-R's in 2001, 2002 & 2005 & two compilation appearances:
"Pile Of Corpses / Fall Down To Hell" on "The Red Hot Burning Hell Vol.1" (Lights Out Records, 2000)
"Creature/Rest in Peace" on "Metal Justice" (Metal Justice, 2000)

I have the four songs from the compilations but need samples specifically from the demos, as they're the only valid releases The band did actually provide samples at their old web page here:

https://web.archive.org/web/20031015143 ... /opus.html

And later, at a newer web page here:

https://web.archive.org/web/20050903234 ... /audio.htm

But the links appear dead, broken or I haven't the correct software installed.

Yeah, those songs are no longer on that server (if he's still up, which I don't think he is).

I also try to contact A Few Seasons Later...

Added. - Corvomorto

Needs research. - Vampanera
Location: Japan
Genre: Power/Speed Metal (?)
Years active: 1996-1998
Status: Split-up

Releases:
Zero (cassette demo, 1997?) (front cover) (cassette insert)
Tracklist:
1. 曼珠沙華 (Manjushage)
2. Paranoia
3. Lonely-Night

Vampanera (VHS video, 1997) (front cover) (back cover)
Tracklist:
1. 曼珠沙華 (Manjushage)
2. 軋轢 (Atsureki)
3. Alexia (live video here)

Members:
Vocal: KIZAKI (MeiNIAC → VAMPANERA →Aste＊Risk)
Guitar: NAVE
Bass: KAPPA (MeiNIAC → VAMPANERA)
Drums: Julie

In need of audio samples and information about their remaining demos.

Related comments:

Regarding Vampanera: Two members (the vocalist and bassist) have also played in the visual kei band Meiniac and the Meiniax demo also seems to feature the track Lonely Night. Maybe it helps you further. Info about Meiniac: http://chaotic-dix.blogspot.com/2017/05 ... rafia.html
https://www.last.fm/music/MeiNIAC
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4hWMReAd-XY
https://rateyourmusic.com/release/singl ... %E7%B8%81/
Edit: Three Vampanera songs, I think , this could be enough as a proof of metalness: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HWpsnZEqjoQ
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCY7uKj ... duYnQwM04w

Interesting comments there:
L1 (month ago): Can you tell me about the members of Vampanera? Wasn't NAVE a member from the beginning? And Julie left? Was it in 1997?

Takamidori san (1 week ago) NAVE (myself, now 'Takamidori san') joined in the middle. And guitarist NAVE withdrew sometime after Julie. Was it around 1999? We weren't very popular but I'm glad you remember us. Thank you very much.

manabudark Dix (2 years ago) great !!!!! (* ω｀人) Can I ask you a question !!! Do you have any of Vampanera's demo tapes, I'm only aware of the one. (ZERO)

Takamidori san (1 week ago) Are you a fan of Vocalist KIZAI? She seems to be active still. Thank you very much. I'm sorry but I have no cassette tapes nowadays. . . haha!

Needs research. - Cruelentus
Genre: Black Metal
Location: Sweden?
Members: ???

Supposedly released the album "Reborn Through Christian Blood" in 2010.

Some songs:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BIYVPgEsOMQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ep_cXeYM-x4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SlpHU-gqyNc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KL3ZclOzOPI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BEjEHyUSAu8

Tracklist given by the original submitter in 2013:


Got a last.fm profile that gives Sweden as the band's location.
https://www.last.fm/music/Cruelentus
The info was added by the guy who also uploaded the songs.

There's a slim chance this band is somehow related to this one:
https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Skymning/7122
Since that's the only other band featured on that guy's youtube chanel.

Yet another old submission that was left rotting for 6 years.

Needs research. - Ett Lik
Genre: Black Metal?
Location: Sweden?

Released the single "Violence in E Minor" in 2012. Proof is good, given that it is on Discogs (with owners and a sale history) and there are pictures of the tape online.
https://www.discogs.com/Ett-Lik-Violenc ... se/5627604
https://www.flickr.com/photos/123606587 ... 863876030/

Distributed by https://www.metal-archives.com/labels/T ... Records/90

All that's missing is the actual music.

Added. - Zipang

Thanks to OpsiusCato's contacts in the local scene, I was able to confirm VR for Corvomorto -> added.

Hi don't know what God Awful was this one but I just added one which is death/thrash metal : https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Go ... 3540456500

By the way, I don't know if I'm authorized to post this but, if you need anything related to underground french metal scene, I can dig out informations, and try to buy/contact releases from here. So if anyone knows by name a french metal band which is obscure with not a lot of informations, I may be able to make work my contacts!

Well, from our point of view, you're very authorized to post this here. Might come in handy!
We currently have 3 French bands in need of further research if you want to start some digging
viewtopic.php?f=17&t=104654&p=2849821
viewtopic.php?f=17&t=104654&p=2625691
viewtopic.php?f=17&t=104654&p=2534555

Needs research. - Lesion
Genre: Death/Thrash Metal?
Location: Oxnard, California
Known members: Tommy Savage - Bass; Tony Swars - Drums

Supposedly released a demo tape in 1994 by Open Wound Music. All I got is a photo and the info the original submitter provided

Wounds of the World
1. Demented Dimension
2. Brutality of Man
3. Civilized Hell
4. Death March

Photo: https://i1323.photobucket.com/albums/u5 ... 78c1c3.jpg

The demo tape might look sketchy at first, but the submitter provided similar photographic proof in all his submissions, 4 of which were accepted because there also was a bandcamp page or something. So I'm fairly certain that it's a real release, BUT some more info would be highly appreciated and I couldn't find any samples.

Regarding Zipang:

This seems to be a stream of the full album:
https://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm5490346

And it plays for me, just takes ages to load. But it's alread after midnight here, so I'll check it after I woke up.

Ok thanks, I'm on the spot!

Needs research. - Wendigo
Genre: Heavy/Thrash Metal
Country : Finland
Audio : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1eZO6vbd4fA

We just need a "proof of release" since the audio has been uploaded. It was found on HMR, but not sure.

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PS : for "Circle's end" I sent a message to one of the old member, let's see if he still has a copy of this, and I'll ask to have the unlisted releases of Sendsirk too. Well, Idk if my posts are well made but here we are.

Ahah, just saw that, this is really funny, this label is the past name of my actual label! I sent them a message, I'll keep you up.
Just for the "story", Hypogea Maleficare, was ran by two guys, one day, one of them has stolen a huge part of the "distro" (don't even know if this word is english, sorry). Then, the other guy decided to create Hypogea Invictus, on the ashes of HM. He his someone we can trust in, I'm waiting for his answer.

Added. - Igniter

So, I talked with "Stéphane" he'll send me some audios. I have a couple of miscelaneous informations (I drop them here, do what you want with them).
- It was a college band.
- They changed name due to another band called "Circle's end"

They released : - an untitled demo with 4 tracks : https://www.discogs.com/fr/Circles-End- ... e/11565444
- a demo called "Different Shades of Black" composed of 5 tracks with one track appearing on the compilation "metal session"


Idk what is "metal session", but if I don't get any tracks from Circle's end, we'll have to find this compil.

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Edit 1 : Here is the "metal sessions" in question : https://www.discogs.com/fr/Various-Meta ... se/5971210
Circle's end is featured with the track : "A magical world" 05:00.

Edit 2 : And finally, I found an audio! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGd96NE-PR4

I have already mentioned it earlier, but the band CirCircle's End has already been submitted and is currently pending in the queue, awaiting a review. You can report the info , which you have gathered, directly there and support the submission in this way, I did the same with the Japanese band Kitsunebi and it got accepted later on. you will also get at least a pont for your efforts in ththis way. See here: https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Ci ... 3540454334

Got it!

Regarding Forlorn (bm - France), I got my answers. So "Saturn" released this after the stealing of the label's merch, at this time he was making bootlegs with super limited copies (don't know how many). Before that he talked a lot about Forlorn, but as it was released after the internal problems, the tape from Fornolrn is 80% bootleg. However, I sent a message to Aryos, to confirm it, but no answer yet.


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Aryos told me "It's not official but not unofficial too [...] I gave them the authorisation to produce it, it's half official, but for many reasons it can't be fully official".

It's not helping a lot, the band itself is not sure about the authenticity of this release by Hypogea Maleficare. However he told me that official tapes of rehearsals were made. Nothing more.

Needs research. - The Aftermath (UK), not to be confused with the band of the same name already on the archives, or at least another band I know of (same country/same name/very similar style)...

rejected with the following message: "Was this ever released officially? Seems like this could have been a private release, given that this album appears to be a promo. Maybe a band for the research thread?"

discogs: https://www.discogs.com/The-Aftermath-S ... e/13767925

youtube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FCFh5AqlCEE

bio on some kind of wayback machine website which claims they had an extensive discog: http://www.spanglefish.com/theaftermath/index.asp