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Nahsil
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 04, 2019 11:55 am 
 

I always thought it was cool to hate Tool because I lumped them in with 90s alt-rock type stuff, but nah, Tool is actually pretty good.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 05, 2019 8:00 am 
 

I joined the bandwagon of people listening to Tool over the weekend now that they're finally on Spotify since I'd only listened to Lateralus before. Undertow was definitely my favorite; it's the only one where they sound like regular guys just making an album that is unique while utilizing a lot of tropes at the time. AEnima is pretty good too, definitely bloated with all the interludes but the mix of blunt immaturity with their burgeoning philosophical whatever is amusing. 10,000 Days is enjoyable enough but also feels like overcooked Lateralus. Gotta say I'm still expecting the new one to be in the low B range at best.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 05, 2019 9:59 am 
 

I'm not even willing to listen to this new album - no matter how good/bad it is, but 10,000 Days is significant to me because I bought it when I was in 6th grade, when Tool was my #1 favorite band. I'll never forget how obsessed I was with that release, and I remember clear as day buying it from the store, riding home, and putting it in the CD player with sheer anticipation...only to be immediately deflated because it completely fucking sucked :lol:. That was the first time I was ever "disappointed" by an artist I looked up to, before that I always worshipped every band I liked as if they were gods or something, but even my pre-teen fanboyism couldn't trick me into liking that shit. The admittedly cool packaging was the only even remotely noteworthy or memorable thing about it.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 05, 2019 12:12 pm 
 

I did happen to see the JRE clip where Maynard talked about Tool for five minutes, and it was indeed disappointing. That part was just him typing out a tweet about them putting their catalog on streaming services, and he said the name of the album. For those interested in actual details about the album, Adam Jones gave a pretty good update:

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I took a picture pointing to the number seven while we were recording, and a lot of the riffs Justin and I brought in were in seven. You don’t really go ‘I’m going to write a riff in seven!’

You just write a riff and you count it out and it turns out to be in seven. Without being too descriptive about the concept, the main thing is that the seven beat just kept coming up, and riffs in seven kept coming up. It was really weird!

When we finished recording, I went to the guys and said ‘I think we should called the record Volume 7’ because a lot of the songs are in seven and there are seven tracks on the record.

Then Maynard told me about a whole concept he had about the number seven. We were all like, ‘Oh My God! This is too weird!’ Then Alex Grey [Tool album artist] basically said the same thing and he has a concept that will reveal itself through video.

So there are a lot of rhythms and polyrhythms where we explore 7/4 or 7/3, and there’s a riff we count in 21 — which we count as three rounds of seven. I wrote a four-minute lead over something counted in 21, which is crazy!


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 05, 2019 1:57 pm 
 

A concept about the number seven is literally the most pretentious thing I've heard today.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 05, 2019 2:21 pm 
 

It's less that it's about the number seven, and more about the fact that it kept coming up independently and synchronously throughout the process of creating the album. Also mathematics has been an important part of their writing process for a while. They used the Fibonacci Sequence to write the song Lateralus:

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In July 2017, Maynard's friend Joe Rogan described his writing process in his podcast; "He wrote a song to the Fibonacci sequence. The Fibonacci sequence is a mathematical sequence. It starts from one, the next number is one, and the next number being two, creates the 2+1 which is three, continuing in this mathematical progression. That's how they found the chord progression. It began linking up to the Fibonacci sequence." The syllables Maynard sings in the first verse follow the first six numbers in the pattern, ascending and descending in the sequence 1-1-2-3-5-8-5-3. "Black (one), then (one), white are (two), all I see (three), in my infancy (five). Red and yellow then came to be (eight), reaching out to me (five). Lets me see (three)." In the next verse, Maynard begins with the seventh number of the Fibonacci sequence (13), implying a missing verse in between. He descends back down with the following pattern; 13-8-5-3. "As below so above and beyond I imagine (13). Drawn beyond the lines of reason (eight). Push the envelope (five). Watch it bend (three)." The second verse adds the missing line to complete the sequence; "There is (two), so (one), much (one), more and (two), beckons me (three), to look through to these (five), infinite possibilities (eight)." 1-1-2-3-5-8-5-3-2-1-1-2-3-5-8-13-8-5-3.


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 05, 2019 4:50 pm 
 

I never used to like this band, but figured since all the albums are streaming I might as well give them another shot. I guess I can see why people like them now. Playing Lateralus. It's not bad... pretty trippy, droning riff work-outs in the general cynical mode of the 90s rock bands and all. These are super fucking long songs/albums though, even for my standards.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 05, 2019 5:10 pm 
 

They just announced the album cover today:

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They also claim that they will release a new song on August 7th, and preorders will go live that day.

https://www.theprp.com/2019/08/05/news/ ... this-week/

Also, since the band has been on streaming services, each service has been displaying different lists so far for their top songs, which is interesting:

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01. “Schism” (1,257,849 streams)
02. “Forty Six & 2” (1,199,585 streams)
03. “Sober” (1,174,077 streams)
04. “The Pot” (1,146,867 streams)
05. “Stinkfist” (1,053,261 streams)
06. “Vicarious” (1,013,567 streams)
07. “Jambi” (884,259 streams)
08. “Lateralus” (875,107 streams)
09. “Parabola” (807,058 streams)
10. “The Grudge” (768,226 streams)

Apple Music:

01. “Sober”
02. “Forty Six & 2”
03. “Schism”
04. “Stinkfist”
05. “The Pot”
06. “Vicarious”
07. “H.”
08. “Lateralus”
09. “Ænema”
10. “Eulogy”

Google Play:

1) Parabola
2) Ticks and leeches
3) Forty Six & 2
4) The Grudge
5) Prison Sex
6) Lateralus
7) H
8) Aenema
9) Bottom
10) Jimmy


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 05, 2019 6:41 pm 
 

That's a pretty mailed-in album cover.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 05, 2019 6:53 pm 
 

Tool being mega pretentious is nothing new, they've always had their heads so far up their asses that they were on the verge of choking on their own heads. See: the Fibonacci shit with Lateralus or the whole "play two different songs on 10,000 Days at the same time and it'll form a new song" or the frankly hilarious deep dives on the wiki pages for various songs and albums. Paragraphs about fans wracking their brains over what "Stinkfist" is about because aw jeez they'd never write something so obvious or this one I'll never forget that went something along the lines of "the song is heavily based on the concept of [some latin word] which is the concept of fitting three beats into the space of two".

That's a triplet. The word you're thinking of is "triplet" you pretentious fucks.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 06, 2019 10:18 am 
 

BastardHead wrote:
Tool being mega pretentious is nothing new, they've always had their heads so far up their asses that they were on the verge of choking on their own heads. See: the Fibonacci shit with Lateralus or the whole "play two different songs on 10,000 Days at the same time and it'll form a new song" or the frankly hilarious deep dives on the wiki pages for various songs and albums. Paragraphs about fans wracking their brains over what "Stinkfist" is about because aw jeez they'd never write something so obvious or this one I'll never forget that went something along the lines of "the song is heavily based on the concept of [some latin word] which is the concept of fitting three beats into the space of two".

That's a triplet. The word you're thinking of is "triplet" you pretentious fucks.


(In pretentious German accent) Too dank for you?

In all honesty though, all prog is like that. It's all about making the biggest, most majestic sounding piece of music possible. It seems like a lot of people have a negative perception of Tool because they're so popular, and their fans don't do them any favors in this regard. If you've ever met an overly abrasive Tool fan, you know what I'm talking about. The thing is, their catalog is virtually flawless if we're being honest. In my opinion, they don't have one bad song or album, and they always had a sound all their own. If you can ignore the hype and pretentious fan base, and just enjoy the music, they really are a great band.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 06, 2019 12:02 pm 
 

Honestly I don't even think Tool is that bad. They're pretty good at the Freak Kitchen/Primus thing where they make their songs very catchy and enjoyable despite all the weird shit they put in them, I've just never met a Tool fan I didn't want to give a swirlie.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 06, 2019 6:59 pm 
 

BastardHead wrote:
Honestly I don't even think Tool is that bad. They're pretty good at the Freak Kitchen/Primus thing where they make their songs very catchy and enjoyable despite all the weird shit they put in them, I've just never met a Tool fan I didn't want to give a swirlie.


This is the thing. I really enjoyed Tool when I was in high school (1998-2001), but the other people that were into them drove me SO fucking nuts, I just stopped listening to them for years. I've since realized how ridiculous that is, but man, they do have one of the most obnoxious fan bases ever.

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BastardHead wrote:
Honestly I don't even think Tool is that bad. They're pretty good at the Freak Kitchen/Primus thing where they make their songs very catchy and enjoyable despite all the weird shit they put in them, I've just never met a Tool fan I didn't want to give a swirlie.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 07, 2019 8:03 am 
 

New Song "Fear Inoculum"

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 07, 2019 8:36 am 
 

BastardHead wrote:
I'll never forget that went something along the lines of "the song is heavily based on the concept of [some latin word] which is the concept of fitting three beats into the space of two".

That's a triplet. The word you're thinking of is "triplet" you pretentious fucks.

Are you talking about a hemiola? That's the opposite of a triplet.

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why wrote:
New Song "Fear Inoculum"

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what the fuck is that cover art
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 07, 2019 10:27 am 
 

darkeningday wrote:
why wrote:
New Song "Fear Inoculum"

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what the fuck is that cover art


Apparently the CD Edition of the Album will have a 4 Inch display in which this cover art will be shown animated, as well as loudspeakers. Speculation though.It's 60-100 dollars in several online shops.

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The Amazon Product page seems to confirm this:
Fear Inoculum is the long awaited new album from TOOL, and the band's first new album in 13 years. The album will be available digitally, and in a special Limited Edition physical package that includes a CD in a tri-fold Soft Pack Video Brochure featuring a 4" HD rechargeable screen with exclusive video footage, a USB charging cable, a 2 watt speaker and a 36 page insert book and MP3 download card.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 07, 2019 1:50 pm 
 

why wrote:
darkeningday wrote:
why wrote:
New Song "Fear Inoculum"

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what the fuck is that cover art


Apparently the CD Edition of the Album will have a 4 Inch display in which this cover art will be shown animated, as well as loudspeakers. Speculation though.It's 60-100 dollars in several online shops.

Edit:
The Amazon Product page seems to confirm this:
Fear Inoculum is the long awaited new album from TOOL, and the band's first new album in 13 years. The album will be available digitally, and in a special Limited Edition physical package that includes a CD in a tri-fold Soft Pack Video Brochure featuring a 4" HD rechargeable screen with exclusive video footage, a USB charging cable, a 2 watt speaker and a 36 page insert book and MP3 download card.


The asking price is only $45, I figured it would be at least double that. That's a steal with all that you're getting.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 07, 2019 8:06 pm 
 

jimbies wrote:
BastardHead wrote:
Honestly I don't even think Tool is that bad. They're pretty good at the Freak Kitchen/Primus thing where they make their songs very catchy and enjoyable despite all the weird shit they put in them, I've just never met a Tool fan I didn't want to give a swirlie.


This is the thing. I really enjoyed Tool when I was in high school (1998-2001), but the other people that were into them drove me SO fucking nuts, I just stopped listening to them for years. I've since realized how ridiculous that is, but man, they do have one of the most obnoxious fan bases ever.


I definitely can relate based on my experience with Tool fans, but man, if there's any band that deserves to have an incredibly passionate fan base, it's them.
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I was waiting for the intro to explode into a maelstrom of intensity but next thing I knew the song was over
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 07, 2019 10:22 pm 
 

It actually sounds like the end of the new song is building up to the next track.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 08, 2019 5:51 am 
 

Yeah nothing's better than a 10 fucking minute intro track lol
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New song was kind of interesting I suppose, but yeah definitely not tremendously exciting. They have an almost ritualistic, hypnotic bent to their stuff.
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Fuck man, what's it been, 13 years?

It sure sounds like Tool, and it sounds good. It is a hell of a lot like some of the ideas they did on Salival, specifically Pushit and Third Eye. Considering that those versions of their songs were (IMO) way better and more atmospheric than on the original albums, I'm immensely stoked to hear the rest. Agreed that this sounds like a lead-in or intro song, but dammit I enjoyed every second of it despite how mellow it was.

I also just want to give a shout out to how damn good the production is on that song. The guitar tone is classic Adam Jones with that dry Diezel distortion and a little bit of fuzz mixed in (love the lead tone towards the end too), the drums are punchy and tight, the bass hits hard and has the right level of depth and pick attack, and Maynard's voice has really aged well. I know music in general sounds great nowadays, but this is just an extremely dynamic, perfectly-performed, organic-sounding recording that is on a whole other level vs. so much modern rock and metal.

I enjoy all their albums and EPs, as well as the gradual transition from hard rock into prog. I appreciate the catchy riffs and energy in the earlier material and the plodding drum and bass grooves in the later albums. This is obviously a continuation of 10,000 Days' sound and I don't mind if it ends up being a more introspective album. I just hope there's enough new ideas for it to feel like an evolution instead of a retread.

As for whether Tool is pretentious... yeah, no shit, but that's part of the charm, and it's honestly hard to find prog rock/metal bands that aren't. They also very clearly play into that image with all the pseudo-mysticism and secrecy. Just don't take it too seriously, because I don't think the band does.

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I like the writing direction of this a lot! It reminds me of post metal bands like Neurosis and Cult Of Luna in the sense that it takes a small number of sections and builds and expands on them, and lets them ferment and grow, rather than being all ADD and jumping from one part to the next. That direction can be great too, but for a while I've found this composition style to be much more immersive, personally. Tool had done this sort of thing before with songs like 10,000 days, Triad and The Patient, but it seems like what we've heard so far is treading more into that territory as a staple rather than a one-off endeavor.

Is it worth the 13 year wait? I don't know and honestly don't care, because in that time I was busy listening to a slew of other great bands, so I wasn't bored really. Either way, between this and the live recordings of those other new songs, I'm excited!

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I was going to just wait until the album released, because whats another few days compared to 13 years? Nevertheless, I couldn't resist and decided to splurge. In my opinion, it's amazing. The drumming is absolute fire and the bass works super nicely with it to build the entire song. Maynard's vocal performance is incredibly beautiful and places lyrics and vocal melodies at perfect points in time. The hypnotic guitar work is awesome, and the extra percussion and instruments are thrown in perfectly. It's Tool, and they're fucking back. Shit had me close to tears at a few times, to be perfectly honest. Pre ordered the special edition after listening. Can't wait.
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A Lifelong Tool Fan's Desperate Plea For the Band to Never Release the New Album:
https://www.esquire.com/entertainment/m ... -released/

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aloof wrote:
A Lifelong Tool Fan's Desperate Plea For the Band to Never Release the New Album:
https://www.esquire.com/entertainment/m ... -released/

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And this is why Tool fans fucking suck. This unappreciative, entitled asshole “fan” needs to fuck right off with his “keep pure things pure by not releasing anything” talk.

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SuperVeji4 wrote:
aloof wrote:
A Lifelong Tool Fan's Desperate Plea For the Band to Never Release the New Album:
https://www.esquire.com/entertainment/m ... -released/

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possibly first time ever an esquire link has been posted in the m-a forum

And this is why Tool fans fucking suck. This unappreciative, entitled asshole “fan” needs to fuck right off with his “keep pure things pure by not releasing anything” talk.

I had that exact same thought until I saw at the bottom of the article he's a comedian and then I figured the article had to be written at least a bit tongue-in-cheek. Because surely nobody's that vain, right?
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aloof wrote:
A Lifelong Tool Fan's Desperate Plea For the Band to Never Release the New Album:
https://www.esquire.com/entertainment/m ... -released/

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I get the distinct impression that this guy doesn't really pay attention to music in general and hasn't found a new band that he likes in at least 15-20 years.

This new song is perfectly serviceable. It's not amazing or even bad. It just sort of exists. Which is exactly what I expected.
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I finally got a chance to listen to the track the other day and it is everything I could've hoped for. The clean production and the dynamic percussion were my favorite things about it; also Maynard sounds like an alien (in a good way). I'm definitely curious to hear this in the context of the album, but this first song is a great start!
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 14, 2019 6:16 am 
 

The new Tool song, I wrote this as I listened to it:
It gets better as it goes on.
It's good, I mean the hype already makes me sceptical so I'm inclined to tell myself I dislike it more than I do. I like the thicker guitar riffs more than the choked parts. The percussion is all really cool.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 16, 2019 3:10 pm 
 

The new song does sound like Tool, yes... but it sounds too much like Tool.

Tool have built on their sound and experimented with more or less every album that they've released. No two albums have sounded the exact same, stylistically (with the possible exception of Opiate and Undertow). The new single has all the elements that define Tool, yes, but it's so forced, it's not even funny. "Sure, we can put tribal drumming in the soft sections and it'll sound like Tool!" I have a strong suspicion that they haven't made any efforts at writing anything during their 13-year absence, and they're sounding not like Tool but somebody trying to imitate Tool.

Oh, and I also see that Maynard has finally discovered the joys of Auto-Tune.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 17, 2019 1:01 am 
 

Well, you listened to it. Too late now.

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 17, 2019 4:49 pm 
 

Yeah I got owned :(
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 19, 2019 3:18 pm 
 

Lord_Of_Diamonds wrote:
The new song does sound like Tool, yes... but it sounds too much like Tool.

Tool have built on their sound and experimented with more or less every album that they've released. No two albums have sounded the exact same, stylistically (with the possible exception of Opiate and Undertow). The new single has all the elements that define Tool, yes, but it's so forced, it's not even funny. "Sure, we can put tribal drumming in the soft sections and it'll sound like Tool!" I have a strong suspicion that they haven't made any efforts at writing anything during their 13-year absence, and they're sounding not like Tool but somebody trying to imitate Tool.

Oh, and I also see that Maynard has finally discovered the joys of Auto-Tune.


Actually, I believe they overwrote for the album.

Quote:
Justin Chancellor, Tool’s bassist, offered his take on why the band’s process has been so drawn out, and the difficulty of approaching the creative process the way they do. “Sometimes I thought we were nearly there,” he told MH. “We’d written an album or we had some songs that were cool, and then we’d dump the whole lot and start again. It was devastating.”


It was, I believe, paralysis by analysis that led to quite a bit of frustration, such as Maynard having written lyrics and then the other 3 changing the music which led to scrapping said lyrics.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 22, 2019 1:28 am 
 

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 24, 2019 1:09 pm 
 

The new Tool song sounds like a more successful version of what Rian Johnson was unsuccessfully trying with subverting expectations. Each part in the song does something completely different from what you expect when it starts. On first listen of course that's all it does, but maybe once there's a whole album there's something more to it.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 25, 2019 6:36 am 
 

The album leaked. It's fine but probably their worst. Really chill and repetitive jam material.

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