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PaganiusI
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 10, 2019 11:36 am 
 

Will clean up the new posts today.

As for Forlorn, I don't think that release is acceptable since the authenticity is disputed. But if they released official tapes of rehearsals, the band might still be acceptable as a whole if we can find proof for their existence (and samples).

While I'm posting anyway, here's a new band for research.

Rough/makeshift digital demo. - Lips of Venom
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Genre: Heavy/Power Metal
Location: Riverside, California (USA)
Members: Johnny Hart (guitars), Elexus Valentine (guitars), Big Daddy

Have at some point released an demo called "Synthetic Skin" at ...some point in time. The submitter gave 2005 as a release year, but since he was banned long time ago, I wouldn't trust his info. He also provided this as the tracklist:
1. Prelude 03:35
2. Dead Of The Night 04:31
3. Synthetic Skin 03:54
4. 6th Sense 03:32
5. Devil's Playmate 04:44
6. Fallen Angel 04:21
7. Overture No. 1 04:02
Which again, I wouldn't trust.

However their page over at PureVolume had this release listed:
https://web.archive.org/web/20180429131 ... ipsofvenom
https://web.archive.org/web/20180501034 ... hetic+Skin

but with neither release date nor tracklist given, probably because PureVolume nuked all their hosted music last year or so. There are links to iTunes and Amazon, neither of them is working and I don't know whether they did work at some point or are just there by default.

There is one sample online which is a demo version of their song "Devil's Playmate" over here
http://indiemusicpeople.com/artist.aspx?ID=33541 -> Player: http://indiemusicpeople.com/iac_test2_d ... 541_Single
and here:
https://www.bandmix.com/chunky-lover/

Other links that didn't lead anywhere but have a few more songs listed (which don't play for me):
https://myspace.com/ourlipsarevenom
https://myspace.com/lipsofvenomband

Needs further proof of VR and a few more samples might not hurt either.

Update: The band was resubmitted in 2017 and Zodi was able to download the songs from PureVolume, therefore it's a valid release and based on that submission the tracklist is confirmed. Again, the release year is listed as 2005 so that's probably how it was listed on PureVolume until they nuked their data. Might be true too, since PureVolume started operating in 2003.
Sadly Zodi doesn't have the songs anymore, so I still need samples of the release to confirm that it holds up to our standards in metalness and "quality".

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Regarding Lips Of Venom: The band was resubmitted again with links to both Myspace pages and a Purevolume page: https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Li ... 3540423434

PaganiusI wrote:
Yes, I know. I noticed that Bonzie had submitted them before, so I shot him a message and told him to resubmit if he still has the songs.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 14, 2019 11:29 am 
 

Needs research. - Replic Void
Genre: Groove/Death Metal
Location: Alor Setar, Kedah (Malaysia)
Known members: Sean Valdry (Guitars, Vocals); Nuno Apache (Bass); Achun (Drums - session?); Arn (Drums - session?)

Aryon (session drummer?)-> https://www.metal-archives.com/artists/Aryon/405548
Brotha Lah Warlord (session drummer?)

The band was apparently active between 1993 and 2004 and possibly reformed around 2010/2011.

They recorded a demo tape called "Comes With A Million Soul" that was released in the 90s with this tracklist:
1. Addari 02:00
2. Comes with Million Soul 02:21
3. Hawariyyun Parasite 02:16 instrumental

According to the description on their youtube videos they planned to re-release it in 2011.

Youtube channel: https://www.youtube.com/user/belanaseni ... shelf_id=0
Facebook post with some biography: https://www.facebook.com/48844993453615 ... =3&theater
Reunion announcement? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UBty7tthXT0

Found no real proof for either of those releases.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 14, 2019 1:19 pm 
 

Circle's End has been accepted. I'll remove 'em
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 15, 2019 12:09 pm 
 

Hello there, it's me again :3

Since we now have an expert on French Underground matters, I hope we can deal with this one rather quickly ;)

Needs research. - Crozius Arcanum
Genre: Black Metal
Location: France

Known Members:
- Martyr (Drums, Vocals - 1997-2000) -> https://www.metal-archives.com/artists/Martyr/62158
- Lyshd Mordrak (Guitars - 1997-2000) -> https://www.metal-archives.com/artists/ ... ordrak/700
-Wardon (Drums - 1997-1999)

Since it was submitted by a band member, I guess that info is correct.

Was submitted with demos listed in the discography:
The Blazon of the Dark Castle:
1. Drageon's tavern   instrumental
2. Moriater
3. War in the death's valley
4. Myth drannor
5. In the northerm plain
6. Dark hymns
7. Drink in the skull our enemies   instrumental

and

Et perseverare diabolicum
1. Et perseverare diabolicum   instrumental
2. Obsesion morbide
3. Demence et blaspheme
4. L'antique revelation

But neither music nor any info on how they were released. I tried to contact Funeraille, but as it is with kvlt underground bands...no one answered my mails.
They were also featured on this compilation which I own:
https://www.discogs.com/Various-Morbid- ... ase/387005
But since I only got a cheap rip/homedubbed tape with xeroxed cover, I don't have the booklet wiht band info, sadly.

Music is fine based on the song on that comp, but I need info on the demos themselves.

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Axel666MoWi wrote:
And about "Crozius Arcanum" I have nothing new too, someone seemingly known them, but I have no answers too, and he knew only one of their releases... Yeah this is a bit useless but that's just to keep you informed.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 16, 2019 4:51 am 
 

Antioch wrote:
Needs research. - Mad Jack (Heavy Metal from the States)
The band might be addable as is, because the track is undeniably metal; however, I think it wouldn't hurt to find some more info, since the description says "promotional release". It doesn't look like it, though.
This is all I've got: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2pp5X4iTFyA


Submitted with 4 good-quality songs in total, and info concerning the release and the line-up. Voila! :)
https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Ma ... 3540457102
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 17, 2019 5:02 pm 
 

Needs research. - 火の鳥 ('Hi no Tori'/Phoenix)
Location : Chiba, Japan
Genre: Heavy Metal/Hard Rock (?)
Years active: 1985-1988(maybe longer?)
Status : Split-up
Members: Hideyuki (Bass), Kentarou (Drums), Kojun (Guitars) Marsha (F)(Vocals)
Releases : Three numbered demo tapes, a three song video promo & two compilation appearances:
'Rock 'n' Roll Power' on 'Heavy Metal Force V' (Explosion Records, 1988)
'火の鳥' on 'Rock File Video 1988 Gal's Paradise (VHS, 宝島, 1988)

Pics of first two demos here: https://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/g357597698
Pic of third demo: https://i.imgur.com/dgI9FsI.jpg

Two short (<1m) video clips of live performances:
https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x7fu7pz - off 'Gals Paradise' VHS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j4LceZyLdTQ (from 2:40) - off Japanese TV talent show

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 18, 2019 11:55 am 
 

Needs research. - Apex (Poland)

Hey, so I wanted to add a Polish band Apex from the town Prudnik, but I need to provide some proof that they made a validly distributed release. There's a problem with that since there's very small amount of information about Apex on the internet. I was able to find only one song by them on YouTube. I doubt that someone could help me with that due to the lack of information about the band, but there's always a chance that this will be read by some Polish metalhead who remembers the 80s.

Links:
My entry: https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Apex/3540447421
Apex's Polish Wikipedia site: https://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apex_(zes ... 2_muzyczny)
The one song that I found on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IYFCzBlMOuM (note that this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDBvkTM6I1U is not the same Apex that I'm trying to submit)
Polish Heavy Metal Page: http://www.dorosledzieci.cba.pl/inne.htm (there's a mention of 4 songs by Apex: "Karuzela", "Zanim skończy się bal", "Złamany klucz" and "W teatrze barw", they were all recorded in the studio of Radio Opole)

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Axel666MoWi
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 19, 2019 8:41 am 
 

PaganiusI wrote:
Hello there, it's me again :3

Since we now have an expert on French Underground matters, I hope we can deal with this one rather quickly ;)

Needs research. - Crozius Arcanum
Genre: Black Metal
Location: France

Known Members:
- Martyr (Drums, Vocals - 1997-2000) -> https://www.metal-archives.com/artists/Martyr/62158
- Lyshd Mordrak (Guitars - 1997-2000) -> https://www.metal-archives.com/artists/ ... ordrak/700
-Wardon (Drums - 1997-1999)

Since it was submitted by a band member, I guess that info is correct.

Was submitted with demos listed in the discography:
The Blazon of the Dark Castle:
1. Drageon's tavern   instrumental
2. Moriater
3. War in the death's valley
4. Myth drannor
5. In the northerm plain
6. Dark hymns
7. Drink in the skull our enemies   instrumental

and

Et perseverare diabolicum
1. Et perseverare diabolicum   instrumental
2. Obsesion morbide
3. Demence et blaspheme
4. L'antique revelation

But neither music nor any info on how they were released. I tried to contact Funeraille, but as it is with kvlt underground bands...no one answered my mails.
They were also featured on this compilation which I own:
https://www.discogs.com/Various-Morbid- ... ase/387005
But since I only got a cheap rip/homedubbed tape with xeroxed cover, I don't have the booklet wiht band info, sadly.

Music is fine based on the song on that comp, but I need info on the demos themselves.


I'll try to have some informations, unfortunately I saw this message too late, I was at Motocultor Fest, they sell a lot of underground french metal overthere, sometimes real rarities (like In Yür Face that I added a year ago in the archives).
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Axel666MoWi
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 19, 2019 9:07 am 
 

Hi, as I said in my previous message I was at Motocultor fest this week end. I buyed a lot of promo-CD's and some of them are from bands not in the archives. Idk if a promo CD with blank CD, and paper cover is enough to be considered as a release, so we may need more informations about these bands. I'm gonna rip everything and put them in my channel. So here are the two bands :




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Not Metal - Electro. - Outworld
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Genre : ?
Country : Italy
Year : 2010
Line-up : ?

Release :
Promo 2010 :
1. Dawn of my new life
2. Omega Level
3. Sick of it all
4. The dark dimension
5. Inverse Polarity Soul

Some links :
http://www.outworldsound.com
http://www.myspace.com/outworldimension
info@outworldsound.com

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Axel666MoWi wrote:
I have no idea how it has been distributed... I listened to outworld and under suspicion. Outworld is not metal, it's electro like De infernali. Sorry for that but Under Suspicion is a kind of heavy/power metal/hard rock, I'm not able to define it. Here is the ripped audio : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ryRG6aS ... e=youtu.be


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Not Metal - AOR/Hard Rock. - Under Suspicion
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Genre : ?
Country : ?
Year : ?
Line-up : ?

Release :
Unnamed or self titled? :
1. Welcome to my life
2. Love without a nt
3. End of the game
4. Come tomorrow
5. Hold on
6. Just your god
7. Fly
8. Destination Unknown
9. I will live
10. Traveler in time

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I have no idea how it has been distributed... I listened to outworld and under suspicion. Outworld is not metal, it's electro like De infernali. Sorry for that but Under Suspicion is a kind of heavy/power metal/hard rock, I'm not able to define it. Here is the ripped audio : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ryRG6aS ... e=youtu.be

PaganiusI wrote:
I found the release of Under Suspicion. Looks like you've got a promo in the "sent to labels/zines" way if it's just blank.
https://www.discogs.com/artist/3579520-Under-Suspicion
https://heavyharmonies.com/cgi-bin/glam ... +Suspicion

Haven't listened yet, but since there's solid VR proof the queue can do that task :) It's listed as Hard Rock/AOR, but if you think it's metal enough go ahead.
Witcher wrote:
I think you really should listen to this one., its namely blatant aor/melodic rock , unfortunately. The musicians even played with former survivor vocalist Jimi Jamison in the past. The namewas familiar to me and with your proof, I remember that I may even own the Frontiers album, that why it was so familiar. This inteview describes the history and musical background of the band very well, it is certainly an underground unknown band: http://www.melodic-rock.com/interviews/ ... icion.html

PaganiusI wrote:
Ugh. Yeah, definitely not metal :(
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 19, 2019 9:24 am 
 

If it's a promo in the sense that they sent it to labels/zines/radio stations to get some advertizing or a label deal, then no.
If it's a promo in the sense of a demo that also received some public distribution, it should be fine...given that there's proof for that.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 19, 2019 9:48 am 
 

I have no idea how it has been distributed... I listened to outworld and under suspicion. Outworld is not metal, it's electro like De infernali. Sorry for that but Under Suspicion is a kind of heavy/power metal/hard rock, I'm not able to define it. Here is the ripped audio : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ryRG6aS ... e=youtu.be
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 22, 2019 5:53 pm 
 

Hello, Axel
Since you seem also to be an expert on Swiss underground metal bands, even those of the more melodic variety, I would like to ask you, if youplease could help me to find samples from the whole ep by the Swiss metal/hard rock band Edison. There is already a post on it in this thread, so I'll repeat briefly, that they released an ep in 1995 called Experience, which was limited only to 300 copies:
https://melodic-hardrock.com/edison-experience-1995/

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 23, 2019 2:12 pm 
 

I found the release of Under Suspicion. Looks like you've got a promo in the "sent to labels/zines" way if it's just blank.
https://www.discogs.com/artist/3579520-Under-Suspicion
https://heavyharmonies.com/cgi-bin/glam ... +Suspicion

Haven't listened yet, but since there's solid VR proof the queue can do that task :) It's listed as Hard Rock/AOR, but if you think it's metal enough go ahead.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 23, 2019 5:03 pm 
 

PaganiusI wrote:
I found the release of Under Suspicion. Looks like you've got a promo in the "sent to labels/zines" way if it's just blank.
https://www.discogs.com/artist/3579520-Under-Suspicion
https://heavyharmonies.com/cgi-bin/glam ... +Suspicion

Haven't listened yet, but since there's solid VR proof the queue can do that task :) It's listed as Hard Rock/AOR, but if you think it's metal enough go ahead.

I think you really should listen to this one., its namely blatant aor/melodic rock , unfortunately. The musicians even played with former survivor vocalist Jimi Jamison in the past. The namewas familiar to me and with your proof, I remember that I may even own the Frontiers album, that why it was so familiar. This inteview describes the history and musical background of the band very well, it is certainly an underground unknown band: http://www.melodic-rock.com/interviews/ ... icion.html

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 23, 2019 5:17 pm 
 

Ugh. Yeah, definitely not metal :(
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 24, 2019 3:05 am 
 

Regarding Lips Of Venom: The band was resubmitted again with links to both Myspace pages and a Purevolume page: https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Li ... 3540423434
regarding Legend Of Sinai:
http://cmnexus.org/profiles/Legend_of_Sinai

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 24, 2019 3:27 am 
 

Yes, I know. I noticed that Bonzie had submitted them before, so I shot him a message and told him to resubmit if he still has the songs.
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Axel666MoWi
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 25, 2019 5:29 am 
 

Witcher wrote:
Hello, Axel
Since you seem also to be an expert on Swiss underground metal bands, even those of the more melodic variety, I would like to ask you, if youplease could help me to find samples from the whole ep by the Swiss metal/hard rock band Edison. There is already a post on it in this thread, so I'll repeat briefly, that they released an ep in 1995 called Experience, which was limited only to 300 copies:
https://melodic-hardrock.com/edison-experience-1995/


Hello! I wouldn't tell that I'm an expert, I just have some swiss contacts and good links ahah. I'll do my best to help you!
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 25, 2019 6:32 am 
 

Thanks in advance. I am very glad, that you have responded, since I am waiting already for more than a year for somebody, who could help me with that task.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 25, 2019 6:46 am 
 

Needs research. - Reign
Location: USA, Michigan
Genre: Progressive/Power metal
Lyrics : Christianity

The band was rejected, because reportedly their album"The Greatest Story Ever Told" form 2013 was blocked and the mods could not listen to it. So I need samples from that complete album and if someone is able to play the album on Spotify, please leave a note here:

https://open.spotify.com/album/7MiDJqi3xQzZkbNntQ6Cny
https://soundcloud.com/user159449298
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCci98T ... M14gWlQfVg

https://www.musicpage.com/reignrocks

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 25, 2019 7:47 am 
 

Needs research. - Celtime
Location: Czech republic, Příbram
Genre: Folk Metal

According to their bio on Bandzone , the band recorded a demo in the Ex-Avik studio in Pilsen in 2010. Proof of physical release of the demo is needed and possible more samples from it, since theire is only one song"Wolftanz " from the demo on Bandzone:
https://bandzone.cz/celtime
https://www.facebook.com/pg/celtime/posts/
https://www.reverbnation.com/celtime
https://www.muzimax.cz/hudebni-databaze ... -1603.html
https://soundcloud.com/celtime
http://www.muzikus.cz/celtime/

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 25, 2019 7:57 am 
 

Needs research. - Žlutý netopýr
Genre: Power Metal
Location: czech republic, Ostrava
They have released a demo cassette "Démon" in 1995. I need proof of physical release of that demo. Kazeta means "Cassette" in english: https://bandzone.cz/_109433
https://facebook.com/%C5%BDlut%C3%BD-Ne ... 300185375/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N7_PvNxQfBs

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Needs research. - Mortiana
Location: Czech republic, Moravská Třebová
Genre: Thrash Metal
The band released two demo cassettes, "Mary" in 1996 and "Pomník" in 1995. I need proof of physical release for these demos: https://bandzone.cz/mortiana?at=albums
https://www.youtube.com/user/sevkicz

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Axel666MoWi
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 25, 2019 5:51 pm 
 

Witcher wrote:
Thanks in advance. I am very glad, that you have responded, since I am waiting already for more than a year for somebody, who could help me with that task.


No problem! I sent a message to someone really involved in swiss underground scene, I hope he will have something for us!
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 26, 2019 9:30 am 
 

I was opting towards having my first try for adding bands to the site and get them approved; the first one being Silvertomb. But the approval was rejected because their debut album hasn't been released yet (Nov. 1st). That was the reason why it was rejected, though I was informed on whether they'll actually approve my submission.

So I ought to wait till their debut release?

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 26, 2019 10:26 am 
 

Petrus_Steele wrote:
I was opting towards having my first try for adding bands to the site and get them approved; the first one being Silvertomb. But the approval was rejected because their debut album hasn't been released yet (Nov. 1st). That was the reason why it was rejected, though I was informed on whether they'll actually approve my submission.

So I ought to wait till their debut release?

1) Completely wrong thread.
2) Isn't the answer obvious?
3) In case it isn't: Yes, wait for the album to be actually released.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 28, 2019 3:08 pm 
 

Needs research. - Lacura (later Incision)
Genre: Thrash Metal
Location: USA

Can't remember where I saw that, but this band has supposedly released a demo (CD) in 2010.
Here is their ReverbNation bandpage : https://www.reverbnation.com/incisionofficial

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That demo was released under the old name "Lacura", according to the bio on ReverbNation. They changed name to Incision in 2011.

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That demo was released under the old name "Lacura", according to the bio on ReverbNation. They changed name to Incision in 2011.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 28, 2019 3:29 pm 
 

Added. - Nuclear Sentence
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Genre: Black/Thrash Metal?
Location: Québec
Label : D.I.Y. Productions (not the greek one, one which has released numerous gore movies and the project, Nuclear Sentence)

This project has released many CD's and tapes but I can't find any audio...
Here are pictures of the releases :
https://i.imgur.com/shHD00f.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/cMiK4z7.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/BWd2RJ8.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/cFZ1Uq1.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/ZNIYzUS.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/nDlzYXf.jpg

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Can we delete Nuclear Sentence's post? I just find audios... I've gone too fast and haven't looked for it as much as I should have, sorry.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 28, 2019 3:31 pm 
 

PaganiusI wrote:
That demo was released under the old name "Lacura", according to the bio on ReverbNation. They changed name to Incision in 2011.

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Thanks pag!
Edit : Can we delete Nuclear Sentence's post? I just find audios... I've gone too fast and haven't looked for it as much as I should have, sorry.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 28, 2019 9:54 pm 
 

Contacted Strid Facebook page, they confirmed Battle never released anything. - Battle
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Location: Askim, Norway
Genre: Black Metal
Status: Split-up
Years active: 1992-1993

Predecessor band of decently well-known Strid. Both Wikipedia and the Metal Archives mention that Strid's End of Life demo was actually released under the name "Battle" but then reissued under the name "Strid". Although "strid" means "battle" in Norwegian, this seems to be a stark enough name change to warrant its own band entry (I mention this to combat the argument that the band Battle has been subsumed into the Strid entry because it is the most recent name of a band that has undergone an insignificant name change). We would just need to find some proof of the End of Life demo being physically released under the name "Battle", after which it would be prima facie proven that Battle had an original metal release.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 29, 2019 2:07 am 
 

Needs research. - Dominion
Genre: Heavy/Power Metal
Location USA
Lyrics : Christianity
The band released a demo tape "Join The Battle" in 1992. It had a song mamed Living ON The Edge. This is certainly not the ssame band as Dominion from New York, since the vocal tone and style is different and the music is far less progressive tthan the sstyle of Dominion from New YYork . The sample song is really convincingly metal, so a proof of physical release is mainly needed:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uKzqCk8sS2g

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 30, 2019 4:59 pm 
 

I submitted Planet Earth (Japan), but it was rejected as 'more rock than metal overall' so that one can be removed from the list. They only had that one album.


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 30, 2019 5:03 pm 
 

Idare from Jpan can also be removed from the list, since the band has been accepted.

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 01, 2019 11:12 am 
 

Done.

Folk Rock. - Die Rattenfänger
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Genre: Medieval/Folk Metal/Rock
Location: Mindelheim (Bavaria), Germany
Members: Max (electric & acoustic Guitars), Stefan (Bass, Vocals), Sabine (Vocals, Flutes), Uwe Grimm(Saxophone, Keyboards, acoustic guitars, Flute, vocals), Thomas (drums)

Released a CD called "Wenn der Himmel brennt" and at least one other CD which I was unable to find anything about.
https://www.musik-sammler.de/media/1419711/
Tracklist:
1. Intro
2. Mut
3. Teufelstanz
4. König Vielfraß
5. Traum
6. Johnny Fever
7. Wenn Der Himmel Brennt
8. Doubt's
9. Sehnsuchtsblatt
10. Ein Rattenfänger
11. Won't Be Alone
12. Wisdom Of Life

Their homepage is still up and even the samples are still working, most of which sound more folk/rock driven, but a few of them suggest that it might have more metal than it wants to show off. (Az's and my opinion at least)
http://www.die-rattenfaenger.de/

Their E-Mail isn't working anymore and the address didn't lead to the man I was hoping for. Needs mainly samples.

Edit: Found a member, he sent me the release
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 01, 2019 6:59 pm 
 

Regarding Dominion, Lafever and hHeavy Artillery: I now have info pages about the bands,which list their demoes complete with covers and tracklisting. Could this, combined with the convincing samples at Youtube, be that much needed proof:
http://downthelinezine.com/cue/doku.php?id=dominion
http://downthelinezine.com/cue/doku.php?id=lafever
http://downthelinezine.com/cue/doku.php ... _artillery

For pPaganiusi: The Hated: http://downthelinezine.com/cue/doku.php?id=the_hated
Regarding Crown Of Thorns: http://downthelinezine.com/cue/doku.php ... ns_georgia
Regarding Entourage: http://downthelinezine.com/cue/doku.php?id=entourage


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 02, 2019 3:45 am 
 

Regarding HubrissDebris: They can be removed from the list, since they are a hardcore/nu-metal band. Please, read the review here: http://downthelinezine.com/cue/doku.php?id=hubrisdebris
Liquid Messenger can probably be removed too, since they play in their own words funky rock influenced by Red Hot Chili Peppers: http://downthelinezine.com/cue/doku.php ... _messenger
Autumn Rose too - alternative rock: http://downthelinezine.com/cue/doku.php?id=autumn_rose
King's Justice too: Listed as hard rock, the band has changed name to Feast Or Famine after the first demo and as you can hear, the Feast Or Famine stuff is really grungy hard rock and not metal: http://downthelinezine.com/cue/doku.php ... _s_justice
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_EtrSO6eXoI

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 02, 2019 10:07 am 
 

Regarding "The Christian Underground Encyclopedia".
The site has zero data control. The members that sign up might be briefly judged on their faith-base, but aside from that no entry they create, nothing they change needs to be verified. Everyone can add anything, so it's like a Spirit of Metal for Christian music. There are no pictures of the releases, barely any info on most of the bands and the only guy that has edited the site since it started (last year) is the admin himself. Their posting guidelines also encourage people to copy-paste stuff from wikipedia...
I don't think we can trust this site in regards of VR yet. They might turn into a decent site, but in it's current state, their system is too vague.
Just look at the page of Hubrisdebris, Matt Miller is literally credited with "Wocka wocka guitar".

BUT, the page might be useful to move further from there.
Example:

Regarding Hubrisdebris:
The site made me look up the band members and two of them play in the band CHD and an interview confirms the Hardcore/Nu Metal.
http://www.angelfire.com/in2/chd/history.html
->Removed

Liquid Messenger:
Sample here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=akxxc_GmIxg
Funk/Rock. -> removed

The tracklist for Autumn Rose leads to this sample:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=965-fK5AJVk
-> Rock -> Removed

Removing King's Justice aswell, doubt that short demo holds any surprises music-wise.

Will look into the other stuff soon, I hope.
[Edit: yeah, nothing definitive there.]
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Needs research. - Sharper
Genre: Heavy Metal
Location: Geneva, Switzerland
Members: vocals : Stevie Pike / Drums : JB Muller / Guitars : Yves Panosetti / Bass : André Pasquier - Keyboards : Fred Versailles

"Demo 4 titres" :
01. Children of Tomorrow
02. Savage Beauty
03. Paying with Fire
04. Why Trust

Released at least one demo, the problem is that we don't know how it has been distributed, it's the classic handwritten old tape. Needs research about the physical releases they made. http://www.petp.ch/HeavyTrashDemo/index ... m/sharper/

They appeared on the following compilations
- "Alliance Rock II 87" along with Red Skies / Werewolf / Apocalypse / ADN /Stryker / Wirescare / Scrambled Eggs (with the tracks : The winds, Closer to our Goal)
- "Alliance Rock III 88" along with Genocide / Horn Rock / Saccage /Hunter / Marginal Face / ADN / Gengis Khan (with the track : Tsero)

So we have 3 different tracks featured on these compilations, but none of them are present on any known demo, EP, album...

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You could try and reach out to the two people mentioned in this post, one of them is a band member it seems:
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They provided the info found on that website.

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Yes I know, I already asked him some days ago for another thing, I'm waiting his next reply to ask some infos about Sharper.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 03, 2019 12:39 pm 
 

Axel666MoWi wrote:
Needs research. - Sharper
Genre: Heavy Metal
Location: Geneva, Switzerland
Members: vocals : Stevie Pike / Drums : JB Muller / Guitars : Yves Panosetti / Bass : André Pasquier - Keyboards : Fred Versailles

"Demo 4 titres" :
01. Children of Tomorrow
02. Savage Beauty
03. Paying with Fire
04. Why Trust

Released at least one demo, the problem is that we don't know how it has been distributed, it's the classic handwritten old tape. Needs research about the physical releases they made. http://www.petp.ch/HeavyTrashDemo/index ... m/sharper/

They appeared on the following compilations
- "Alliance Rock II 87" along with Red Skies / Werewolf / Apocalypse / ADN /Stryker / Wirescare / Scrambled Eggs (with the tracks : The winds, Closer to our Goal)
- "Alliance Rock III 88" along with Genocide / Horn Rock / Saccage /Hunter / Marginal Face / ADN / Gengis Khan (with the track : Tsero)

So we have 3 different tracks featured on these compilations, but none of them are present on any known demo, EP, album...

You could try and reach out to the two people mentioned in this post, one of them is a band member it seems:
https://www.facebook.com/pg/HTDemos/pos ... e_internal
They provided the info found on that website.
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