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KingSpooky
The Man, The Machine, The Legend

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Posted: Sat Jul 10, 2021 5:15 pm

Thanks - if anyone has a LinkedIn account and feels like trying to contact him about Firing Squad, a band that he once produced a 7" single for, that would be great. Could turn out to be NWOBHM.

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KingSpooky
The Man, The Machine, The Legend

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Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2021 9:43 pm

Needs research. - Busted
Location: Chiny, Luxembourg, Belgium
Genre: Heavy Metal, Hard Rock (?)
Band members (none are on the site) - Bass Guitar – Leo Barbillon, Drums – Albert Leroy, Guitars – Laurent Princier, Guitars - Philippe Princier, Vocals – Guido Pignon
Discography: "Got You By the Balls" 7" (1981), "Heavy Metal Liars" 7" (1982)
Discogs: https://www.discogs.com/artist/6189647-Busted-8
Den of Iniquity (more info) - http://users.telenet.be/denofiniquitybe/busted.htm

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KingSpooky
The Man, The Machine, The Legend

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Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2021 10:41 pm

Added. - Nasty's Nightmare

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KingSpooky
The Man, The Machine, The Legend

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Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2021 11:51 am

Listened to the band that its members became; not worth pursuing. - Stonewalk

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Witcher
Metal freak

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Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2021 12:33 pm

Regarding Nasty's Nightmare: Gregg "Uncle Nasty" Scott could be contacted here:
https://www.facebook.com/UncleNastyShow
https://twitter.com/unclenastyshow

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KingSpooky
The Man, The Machine, The Legend

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Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2021 2:25 pm

Thanks, Witcher.

Needs research. - Cristal
Location: France
Genre: Heavy Metal, Hard Rock (?). Described as Melodic Metal on a Wikipedia entry.
Band members: Sylvie Grare (vocals - https://www.metal-archives.com/artists/ ... are/106897), Nicolas Hostiou (bass on one of the songs), Pascal Bouteller (drums), Eric Moulard (guitars, bass)
Discography: Self-titled demo tape (1987; track listing: Somewhere on the Road/ Presence/ Eclipse/ Somewhere on the Road (alt. version)
Discogs: https://www.discogs.com/Cristal-Cristal ... e/11626553

"Metal Instinct" #1 (1990) 'zine review of a 2-song demo from 1988, translated from French to English:
This demo is already an antique but is still worth the chronicle that we devote to it here. Composed of two tracks, this honest production (slight lack of relief for the rhythm anyway) presents us with classical but effective compositions. Evolving in a hard US register, CRISTAL, if it still lacks originality, largely fills this gap with a certain enthusiasm. Case to follow ....

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KingSpooky
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Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2021 3:00 pm

Needs research. - Time Machine
Location: Hautes-Pyrénées (near Tarbes), France
Listed genre: Progressive Metal
Band members: Jérôme Arias (drums, guitars, keyboards, percussion), Olivier Blanchard (guitars, keyboards), Marc Paris (rhythm guitars), Thierry Fong Ktwok (bass)
Discography: "Eutherpe's Songs" demo tape (1996)
Discogs: https://www.discogs.com/Time-Machine-Eu ... e/14650891

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KingSpooky
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Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2021 3:13 pm

Added. - Misery

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KingSpooky
The Man, The Machine, The Legend

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Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2021 4:27 pm

More rock than metal - Dreadfull

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KingSpooky
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Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2021 5:04 pm

Added. - Wych Elm

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KingSpooky
The Man, The Machine, The Legend

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Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2021 6:45 pm

Anyone who is able to find enough information about the bands that I've posted in here (most of them are from page 40, onward), feel free to submit them. They're not reserved, though for other users who post bands they are - unless you talk to them, and they are fine with you making the submission. If audio is found but no photo of a physical copy, even if the full track listing isn't known, a screenshot of a partial conversation with a band member where they mention that they released a tape or CD (which has sometimes been done via Facebook, and can then be uploaded to an image site like imgur), ideally with details of distribution, would suffice for evidence. If there is proof of the release physically, a 'zine review that clearly describes their sound as being metal would also work instead of audio. One way that audio samples of extremely rare bands have sometimes been acquired is by contacting contributors/owners of the release(s) at Discogs, to ask if they can send samples of the music.

A highly-recommended tool outside of Google to find information on '80s - early '90s metal bands are the scanned-and-uploaded zines on the Corroseum website. You can search by band through their database of fanzines. These results don't turn up on Google, and some bands featured in the 'zines have little or no information available online. Interviews might help to straighten out some facts and timelines, mention other bands that members played in, and lead to other interesting finds. Reviews from them can also be used in submissions. A list of other similar sites where old fanzines have been uploaded and are accessible to read are linked at the bottom of the page.

https://thecorroseum.org/fanzines/index.php

For zine articles that are printed in a language unfamiliar to you, taking a screenshot of the text, and then submitting the photo to this image-to-text site ( https://www.prepostseo.com/image-to-text ) could also prove to be a useful suggestion.

For bands with expired websites - such as MySpace, or an old homepage, try entering the URL into this site in order to see earlier versions of the page, which might include details or information on releases that aren't shown on their current homepage or websites. Sometimes information about releases, as well as band/logo photos, etc. can be found this way.
https://archive.org/web/

It would be greatly appreciated if you post information that you happen to have or are able to find regarding bands in this thread, even if it's not yet enough to add the band, or if the information is that a band on one of these lists shouldn't be searched for anymore because they either played in a style aside from metal, or it's been confirmed that they had no official releases.

Some more info/ideas here.

Many thanks for help in researching!

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billm99uk
Metal newbie

Joined: Fri Oct 13, 2017 4:38 pm
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Location: United Kingdom

Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2021 8:03 pm

Witcher wrote:

S9NE wrote:

Needs research. - Vampanera
Location: Japan
Genre: Power/Speed Metal (?)
Years active: 1996-1998
Status: Split-up

Releases:
Zero (cassette demo, 1997?) (front cover) (cassette insert)
Tracklist:
1. 曼珠沙華 (Manjushage)
2. Paranoia
3. Lonely-Night

Vampanera (VHS video, 1997) (front cover) (back cover)
Tracklist:
1. 曼珠沙華 (Manjushage)
2. 軋轢 (Atsureki)
3. Alexia (live video here)

Members:
Vocal: KIZAKI (MeiNIAC → VAMPANERA →Aste＊Risk)
Guitar: NAVE
Bass: KAPPA (MeiNIAC → VAMPANERA)
Drums: Julie

In need of audio samples and information about their remaining demos.

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Regarding Vampanera: I think, aht when there is a proof of valid release for at least one demo and five full songs, from which it is obvious , that the band plays metal, that the band could already be submitted. I wold like to get a moderator's opinoon on this, since in case of a positive answer, the user could be contacted to directly submit it.
https://www.discogs.com/artist/7625241-Vampanera
https://ru.rateyourmusic.com/release/vi ... mpanera.p/

Somebody has uploaded Vampanera's demo 'Zero' in full here recently:

https://youtu.be/HXGb6OhJsVc

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KingSpooky
The Man, The Machine, The Legend

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Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2021 8:13 pm

Thanks, Billm. It sounds like it could make the cut - S9NE, feel free to submit over the next week, or anyone that wants to can submit them on July 20.

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KingSpooky
The Man, The Machine, The Legend

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Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2021 8:50 am

NWOBHM RESEARCH LIST (click 'show')

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KingSpooky
The Man, The Machine, The Legend

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Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2021 12:21 pm

Added. - Approximate Hint

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KingSpooky
The Man, The Machine, The Legend

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Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2021 7:08 pm

The NWOBHM list 2 posts up is now edited and ready to go - feel free to name off bands that shouldn't be on the list, either because they are more rock than metal, or are on the site already, and I'll make updates. Some are likely already blacklisted. It would be great if audio samples for bands that are more in the rock vein could be provided. I'll begin to go through the list also, as I get the chance. Note: bands with the city listed beside them usually indicates that there's a band by the same name on the site already, or another one is known. If other info is found, like members or relevant links, I'll add that info to the list as well. Thanks for the help in going down the obscure NWOBHM rabbit hole!

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Witcher
Metal freak

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Location: Czech Republic

Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2021 7:53 pm

Added. - Nick Fury

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KingSpooky
The Man, The Machine, The Legend

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Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2021 8:57 pm

Added. - Insane Reign

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Needs research. - Sledge
Genre: Thrash/Power/Groove Metal
Location: likely Florida, USA
- seeking info about releases, band members
YouTube - band photo and audio of the song "Loose Cannons" -
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=43OB4vZoSPs

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KingSpooky
The Man, The Machine, The Legend

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Location: United States

Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2021 9:17 pm

Hard rock that looks metal - Inner Voice

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GraveWish
Metalhead

Joined: Mon Aug 07, 2006 7:49 am
Posts: 1398

Posted: Wed Jul 14, 2021 5:26 am

Needs research. - Black Friday
Band is later known as https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Cycorax/74497
Listed genre for Black Friday: Progressive/Thrash Metal
Released The Illusion demo (1986) with tracks Senile Dimentia / The Plague of Thebes / The Darkest Friday (cover can be found here https://cycoraxmetal.blogspot.com/p/discography.html)

Need samples

(Spooky) -
(United Kingdom - not NWOBHM band with John Wiggins)
Just saving the lyrics here before deleting the Cycorax entry. Will keep an eye out for this.

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GraveWish
Metalhead

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Posts: 1398

Posted: Wed Jul 14, 2021 5:50 am

Needs research. - Warpath
Band is later known as https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Darkened/7164
Listed genre for Darkened: Thrash/Death Metal
Released "Together We Shall Rise" demo (1999) with tracks:
1. Dance of the Dead
2. Apartheid
3. Enemies
4. In Desperation Scream
5. Hate Someone You Love

Need proof of valid release
Need samples

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GraveWish
Metalhead

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Posted: Wed Jul 14, 2021 6:26 am

Needs research. - Blind Rage
Band is later known as https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Devilish/24288
Listed genre for Devilish: Thrash/Death Metal
Released "This Is a Good Day to Die..." demo (1999) with tracks:
1. Disciples of Darkness
2. Alone in the Dark
3. Lost
4. Human Mind Hell
5. No Escape from Dying

Need proof of a valid release
Need samples

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GraveWish
Metalhead

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Posted: Wed Jul 14, 2021 6:36 am

Needs research. - Vengeance
Band is later known as https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Decapity/36025
Listed genre for Decapity: Death/Thrash Metal/Grindcore
Released "Derision of Profanity" demo (2004) with tracks:
1. Decapity (06:54)
2. Taken by the Dark (05:54)
3. Scorched Satire (07:22)

Need proof of valid release
Need samples

(Spooky) - Cover art: https://imgur.com/a/w5U3m77 (it turns out that Vengance was a typo by whoever added the note about their original name into the Decapity release).

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GraveWish
Metalhead

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Posted: Wed Jul 14, 2021 7:09 am

Needs research. - Truth
Possibly written as T.R.U.T.H.
Band is later known as https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Deadspeak/20746
Listed genre for Deadspeak: Death Metal
Released "With Malice a Forethought (Promo 2001)" demo (CD, 2001) with tracks:
Face/ Vehemence/ Cast My Blackened Soul/ Into the Fiery Pits of Damnation/ Deadspeak

https://web.archive.org/web/20010805134 ... lyrics.htm (You can check them out NOW on mp3.com)
A previous report on MA stated that a user allegedly had 3 copies of the demo.

Need samples

(EDIT: I accidently edited the old entry I made for this band with the entry for the band Blind Rage)

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KingSpooky
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Posted: Wed Jul 14, 2021 10:35 am

Needs research. - Khoang Cach
Location: Mahasarakham, Thailand
- this has to do with a name change from Khoang Cach to Bao Tap (https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Ba ... iscography). 2 demos were released under the Khoang Cach name (though format isn't listed, so this fact should be looked into, for proof). One is attached to the Bao Tap page and needs to be removed, but has a review attached to it. If information for this band can be found and they're able to be added, I can merge the release and keep the review in tact. Otherwise, I'll have to remove the release from the Bao Tap page and leave Khoang Cach release details in the additional notes for Bao Tap as they are.
I'll leave this report open for now:
https://www.metal-archives.com/report/view/id/761865

- July 21 update: Since it looks like this band isn't going to be quickly added, I'm going to close the report, delete the release, and save information about it here. The review has been sent back to user TomekVinmovskyi, and can be seen and possibly extracted from there in the future if Khoang Cach is able to get a listing on the site.
Info for Demo June 6, 2005 (unknown format):
Cover art - https://imgur.com/GQLW2H4
Lyrics:

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BlackFlag
Metal newbie

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Posted: Thu Jul 15, 2021 7:59 am

KingSpooky wrote:

Thanks, G One. I'll check it out as soon as possible.

Needs research. - Turkana
Location: Jaén, Andalusia, Spain
Genre: Heavy/Power Metal (?)
Band members: Marisa (Vocals), Sergio (bass), Juan Alberto (drums), Dani L. (guitars), Dani Q. (guitars) - note: some musicians come from the bands Glass Jail and Havoc, both possibly also worth looking into for potential site addition
Discography: "Oscuro Destino" CD-R demo (year unknown)
Review: https://metalcry.com/discos/turkana-oscuro-destino/
Discogs: https://www.discogs.com/Turkana-Oscuro- ... e/19411453

Some cmplementary info here:
https://www.last.fm/es/music/Turkana/+wiki
https://web.archive.org/web/20091001192 ... rkanametal
Not enough to submit them, though.

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Witcher
Metal freak

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Posted: Thu Jul 15, 2021 12:05 pm

Regarding the NWoBHM list:

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KingSpooky
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Posted: Thu Jul 15, 2021 12:13 pm

Thanks, BlackFlag and Witcher. List updated.

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Witcher
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Posted: Thu Jul 15, 2021 12:35 pm

Regarding Twisted Ace: The song I Won't Surender sounds like pure NWOBHM and the send song, firebird, has more hard rock influences, but is still heavy enough imo. I wonder, why they were rejected:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vW1vuurofVw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nK80h1EPB38
https://www.discogs.com/Twisted-Ace-Fir ... se/2621007

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KingSpooky
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Posted: Thu Jul 15, 2021 2:04 pm

Probably more rock than metal by the site's definition, but feel free to bring it up in the appeal thread if you want to try adding them. This other song has a strong AOR influence:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TgA3tJTD8r0

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Witcher
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Posted: Thu Jul 15, 2021 6:45 pm

Tanks, for the answer, Spooky, i have now asked about them. From nwobhm list:

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KingSpooky
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Posted: Thu Jul 15, 2021 7:03 pm

You're welcome. Have updated the list - the 2 Warrior bands left on there are different. Here is a full breakdown of UK bands named Warrior (probably far from complete):
- Warrior (NWOBHM from Newcastle upon Tyne (on Metal Archives)
- Warrior (NWOBHM from Chesterfield - released "Let Battle Commence" album in 1980)
- Warrior (Hard Rock from Essex - released "Don't Let It Show" 3-song 10" EP in 1980)
- Warrior (NWOBHM from Burnley - their song "Still on the Outside" was on the New Electric Warriors compilation in 1980)
- Warrior (NWOBHM from Newport - on the list, nothing yet known)
- Warrior (NWOBHM from West Sussex - on the list, nothing yet known)

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Witcher
Metal freak

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Posted: Thu Jul 15, 2021 7:10 pm

Yeah, you are right, I have posted them mainly to avoid confusion, since the are listed as nwobhm on the British Warrior page here in the archives. If If I may ask you, could you please blacklist all bands, which were excluded from the list ? Some of thethem already are, but I'm not sure for example for the two Warrior bands.

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KingSpooky
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Posted: Thu Jul 15, 2021 8:11 pm

Sure, that's a good idea. Thanks for clarifying about Warrior.

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Witcher
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Posted: Thu Jul 15, 2021 8:21 pm

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