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droneriot
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 30, 2005 3:03 pm 
 

Darkthrone's "land of frost" demo and "unholy reh. 92" on one tape, is that a bootleg, does anyone know?
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Visionary
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 01, 2005 10:59 pm 
 

It is listed in the bootleg archive but it is also on the band page

Burzum - Anthology (2002)
http://www.metal-archives.com/release.php?id=100175
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Veddartha
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 02, 2005 2:44 am 
 

Suffocation-Live at Baltimore

That bootleg ahs been around soulseek for a long time.
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LordAndy
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 02, 2005 6:10 am 
 

What about ll the different Blind Guardian Bootlegs containing the two demos from their "Lucifer's Heritage" time?
(Many different bootleg versions)


Even amazon.com lists one version:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000B6 ... nce&n=5174

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khronos
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 10, 2005 3:11 pm 
 

I read that Behemoth never agreed to release the Historica box set and it's not listed on their offical site where it also says: "NOTE THAT EVERY BEHEMOTH RELEASE THAT IS NOT MENTIONED ON THIS PAGE IS CONSIDERED EITHER BOOTLEG OR PIRATE"

The same goes for the re-release of the "Live Eschaton" VHS as DVD. ("The final DVD edition includes some bootleg interviews and live shots the label (MMP) stole from our site. They used the interviews without asking for permission.and it seems like they didn't learn how to act pro until today. What a crappy, worthless, shitty label.")
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Evenfiel
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 11, 2005 8:36 am 
 

Visionary wrote:
It is listed in the bootleg archive but it is also on the band page

Burzum - Anthology (2002)


The official Burzum site considers it an official album.

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VileRancour
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 17, 2005 12:04 pm 
 

Urchin - Urchin (Full length, 2004)
Hell (uk) - Land Of The Living Dead (Best of/Compilation, 2005)
Marquis de Sade - Marquis de Sade (Best of/Compilation, 2005)

All bootlegs by HHO/High Roller Records.
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MMisantropo
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 17, 2005 12:07 pm 
 

Corrosion of Conformity - 1992 - Mad World EP seems to be a bootleg, can anybody confirm it?

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Manchester_Devil
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 19, 2005 7:11 pm 
 

Malevolent Creation - Created Live is a bootleg (released by Metal Minds without the bands permission).
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peterott
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 21, 2005 4:22 am 
 

VileRancour wrote:
Urchin - Urchin (Full length, 2004)
Hell (uk) - Land Of The Living Dead (Best of/Compilation, 2005)
Marquis de Sade - Marquis de Sade (Best of/Compilation, 2005)

All bootlegs by HHO/High Roller Records.



No, the Hell (UK) record is no bootleg. It was agreed by the remaining ex-members of the band and will be pressed on CD in spring/summer 2006.

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Noisenoir
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 16, 2006 2:28 pm 
 

METALLICA - We'll Nail You Down (LP Bootleg)
nice cover though...

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Willi_Turner
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 17, 2006 12:54 pm 
 

Here's a link to an excellent Iron Maiden Bootleg site:

http://www.maidenfans.com/imc/?link=boo ... x&lang=eng

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parasite_lost
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 18, 2006 1:49 pm 
 

http://www.metal-archives.com/release.php?id=105909

anyone know if this is a boot? the fact it hadn't been added earlier and the kid who added it is 15 makes me unsure whether its official. its not mentioned in the archgoat bio.

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Evenfiel
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 18, 2006 6:03 pm 
 

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fukkwitt
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 24, 2006 6:37 pm 
 

Evenfiel wrote:
Visionary wrote:
It is listed in the bootleg archive but it is also on the band page

Burzum - Anthology (2002)


The official Burzum site considers it an official album.


Though it IS a bootleg. It is not released by Cymophane, and it is not released by AHF. If I am not mistaken, it also includes incorrectly spelled titles on the back, as well as a fake track.
When Varg mentioned to the editor of the site which albums was to be removed, I believe he just missed that one, or something. At least that is what I heard from the webmaster...

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Evenfiel
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 24, 2006 6:58 pm 
 

fukkwitt wrote:
Though it IS a bootleg.


Official bootlegs can be added to the discography.

Quote:
When Varg mentioned to the editor of the site which albums was to be removed, I believe he just missed that one, or something. At least that is what I heard from the webmaster...


If he indeed missed that album, he'll find that out sooner or later, and then we'll also remove it.

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fukkwitt
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 24, 2006 7:07 pm 
 

I am a bit new here, but why is it that the Draugen Rarities is not listed then? It is highly dubious, sure - and yes it has errors and bad sound, but at least is is released by a legitimate label (and according to the label the artwork was approved by Varg Vikernes, although I doubt that), as opposed to the Anthology which is a bona fide bootleg?

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Evenfiel
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 24, 2006 7:26 pm 
 

We added the albums listed here:
http://www.burzum.org/eng/discography/

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fukkwitt
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 24, 2006 7:36 pm 
 

Aha, I see. Well, not all info up there is correct, but I understand that you proritize the site, as it is a semi-official one.

Thank you for clearing that up.:)

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khronos
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 03, 2006 5:33 pm 
 

I think Behemoth (Pol) - Chaotica - The Essence of the Underworld compilation is also a bootleg. As far as I'm aware it isn't listed on their site.

Also Behemoth (Pol) - Live In Toulouse.
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Evenfiel
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 05, 2006 7:51 pm 
 

They're not bootlegs.

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khronos
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 05, 2006 8:56 pm 
 

Not? Well, rather not official. They're professionally printed, that's right. But they're not listed on their offical site. And they were released by MMP who also did the Historica box and the one DVD. Both who were deleted from the discography.
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Evenfiel
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 05, 2006 9:15 pm 
 

We had this discussion a long time ago, and it was decided that they were not bootlegs. Behemoth did sign to MMP though. Live Eschaton was released by them.

Christkiller, do you have more info?

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khronos
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 05, 2006 9:21 pm 
 

OK. I'm just a bit confused. The Historica Box-Set as well as the Live Eschaton DVD were deleted from their discography page, not long after I reported that.

Historica
Live Eschaton DVD
Chaotica - The Essence of the Underworld
Live In Toulouse

are not listed on www.Behemoth.pl - they were officially released, but without permission. So either we delete all of them from MA or none and not just two. That's what I'm thinking.
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Evenfiel
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 05, 2006 9:59 pm 
 

Live Eschaton IS listed on the official site.

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khronos
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 05, 2006 10:11 pm 
 

Yes, as VHS cassette. But not as DVD. They list DVDs and videos seperately. And in the additional notes of the Live Eschaton VHS it reads:

Quote:
"The final DVD edition includes some bootleg interviews and live shots the label (MMP) stole from our site. They used the interviews without asking for permission.and it seems like they didn't learn how to act pro until today. What a crappy, worthless, shitty label."
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Evenfiel
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 05, 2006 10:37 pm 
 

Well, if some other mod doesn't say anything, I'll delete both entries soon.

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Subconscious
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 12, 2006 7:11 am 
 

Visionary wrote:
It is listed in the bootleg archive but it is also on the band page

Burzum - Anthology (2002)
http://www.metal-archives.com/release.php?id=100175

If I've seen it correctly, there are two Anthologies.
One Released through the Heathen Front/Cymophane: It has a brown cover, which is official, aslo is the one on the Archives.

Anthology - Lord of darkness (With Varg in the early days on the cover/black-white) the one actually easier to get (iE via amazon) which is a bootleg.


Dimmu Borgir - The gods of darkness (Digipak)
Dimmu Borgir - Spiritual darkness - Alive in Europe (2000)
Are bootlegs, didnt find them on your list yet, often mistaken as official releases by "fans"

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khronos
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 17, 2006 4:05 pm 
 

Evenfiel wrote:
Well, if some other mod doesn't say anything, I'll delete both entries soon.


And, somebody against it?

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Evenfiel
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peterott
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 19, 2006 7:13 am 
 

According the officially released Nihilist compilation CD, the Drowned 7" (which I can't add) isn't a real bootleg. I qoute:
"Nihilist only managed only one semi-official vinyl release, which was their own bootlegged version of the Drowned 7" single on Bloody Rude Defect Records, released by the band's good friend Fredrik Holmgren.

Suggestion: Add this release to the discography:
Severe burns/When Life Has Ceased//
Bloody Rude Defect Rec. 1989
running time same as Drowned demo

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Uncolored
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 19, 2006 8:35 am 
 

peterott wrote:
"Nihilist only managed only one semi-official vinyl release


I always wonder what "semi-official" does really mean. can any have an idea? imho a release could only be or official or bootleg.
then I look for that nihilist 7" ep on bloody rude defect rec. since 1990 and I never found it nor even know a single person that got or seen it, the copies on ebay are fucking bootlegs and it was pressed gazillion of times...
we locked the nihilist discography cause as far as I know there was no real proof that this 7" was ever released
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Evenfiel
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 20, 2006 8:42 am 
 

Even if it's official, I don't see a point in adding it, cause it's just a regular rerelease.

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Vegetaman
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 10:50 pm 
 

Apparently Opeth's "Demo '91" is a bootleg and not a true demo. Either that or it doesn't really exist; I'm not even for sure on that one now. And don't anybody try to add it either, unless you don't like having as many points as you do now.

Go figure...

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vacca
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 02, 2006 8:35 am 
 

Uncolored wrote:
I always wonder what "semi-official" does really mean. can any have an idea? imho a release could only be or official or bootleg.

Well, it can mean that the release was legal, but not authorized by the band.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 02, 2006 9:04 am 
 

http://www.metal-archives.com/release.php?id=108708

Is this genuine?

Looks distinctly like a bootleg, and it's only appeared on here recently.

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Evenfiel
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 02, 2006 9:08 am 
 

It was added by chaossphere...

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Radagast
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 02, 2006 9:15 am 
 

Oh. TheAbsorbant was the last to update the page, that's all I can see.

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Evenfiel
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Chaossphere added it 10 days ago.

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TheStormIRide
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I was browsing at a used store the other day and came across a White Zombie bootleg. It's called Black Plague. Definitely not an official release.
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