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Azmodes
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 12, 2023 3:11 pm 
 

Azmodes wrote:
PaganiusI wrote:
That Thrash Metal Guide might be worth going through in general, not sure if anyone mentioned it here before:
http://thethrashmetalguide.com/

I'll see what I can extract.

Alright, so there are 15,565 bands listed on that site. By checking them against (a slightly out-of-date version of) the MA database, I was able to eliminate all but around 1,500. Out of those, a few hundred were blacklisted and two dozen or so are already on the research list. So that leaves a bit over 1,100 for Pag and me to manually check.

A problem I noticed right away is that the guy seems to be rather sloppy, sometimes with spelling names, but particularly, infuriatingly with countries, so that a lot of the remaining stuff is just listed bands with some random-ass country assigned. We're manually eliminating those, but it follows that anything added to the research list from that site will have a ? added to the country of origin. Another problem is that the guy also includes a lot of thrashcore, ostensibly in the sense of fast hardcore (but not sure). Metallic hardcore and metalcore too. I'll add these as well for now, though.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 12, 2023 3:13 pm 
 

Needs research. - Death Agressor
Location: Brazil
- Obscure metal band that formed no later than 1989, and they have a Facebook page. Haven't looked at it thoroughly or messaged to ask if they released anything.
https://www.facebook.com/deathagressor/

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BuriedUnborn
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 12, 2023 3:21 pm 
 

RetinalBurns wrote:
Needs research. - Death Agressor
Location: Brazil
- Obscure metal band that formed no later than 1989, and they have a Facebook page. Haven't looked at it thoroughly or messaged to ask if they released anything.
https://www.facebook.com/deathagressor/


Sent them a message in Portuguese asking if they recorded anything. Will keep you updated.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 12, 2023 3:48 pm 
 

^Thank you.

Needs research. - Alerta Vermelho (translates to Red Alert)
Location: Belo Horizonte, Brazil
https://imgur.com/a/RK3dUFO (article from "Metal Blood" #4 'zine, 1989/1990)
Roughly translated parts of the above article: band was formed in July 88, only now the band stabilizes with MADSON (bass and vocals), Paulo Red (guitar and vocals) and Boca (vocal drums). The sound of metal one O at ban ALERTA is a thrash core with good foundations and great work, that's what we can see in the first Demo-tape from da, which contains the songs... (titles in the article match the ones listed here:
https://www.guitars101.com/threads/aler ... are.95729/
(link is dead)

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 12, 2023 4:11 pm 
 

Needs research. - Fahrenheit
Location: Teresina, Piauí, Brazil
Genre: Thrash/Speed Metal
Band members: https://www.metal-archives.com/artists/ ... les/181752 (bass, vocals)
Marcilio (drums)
Alexandre (guitars)
- article in "Metal Blood" #4 (1989/'90): https://imgur.com/a/YHfxQ7K
The article above compares their sound to Slayer and Sodom, and says that they recorded an unofficial demo with the songs "Victim of Destiny", "Fill or Die" (possibly a typo of "Kill or Die"), "Mong Four Walls", and "Wear Minds".
Referenced in this article for the band Scud, which Fawster (R.I.P. 2022) went on to play in.
https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scud_(banda)

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~Guest 373248
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 12, 2023 4:23 pm 
 

Possibly helpful fact about The Thrash Metal Guide is that it's authored by Metallum reviewer Bayern. He may be able to answer questions about obscure bands on it.
https://www.metal-archives.com/users/bayern

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 12, 2023 4:33 pm 
 

Needs research. - Ofence
Needs research. - Noisy Life
- 2 more Brazilian bands that are featured in 1989 "Mad House" #3 'zine.
https://imgur.com/a/9mbb1gX

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 12, 2023 5:35 pm 
 

Needs research. - Witchcraft
Location: Salvador, Bahia, Brazil
Genre: Thrash Metal
https://imgur.com/a/4Gm1Y8C (article in "Mad House" #3 'zine)
Rough translation to English:
Spoiler: show
Band from Salvador formed in June of 89, with the proposal of making a Thrash sound.
In the rehearsals, 2 musicas: Witchcraft(inst.) and Final War.
Changes begin to occur: Leonel(baterista) leaves the band and Nal, ba Morbid Corpse terista keeps breaking the branch, until they find France. After the entry of the new drummer, Antony moves on to lead guitar alongside Lukas who takes over the vocals, thus becoming the current formation of the band: Lukas (guitar/vocals), Antony (guitar), Sid (bass) , France (drums). Along with the band comes the band's proposal to make a worked and original Thrash.


Needs research. - Perpetuo
Also from the same 'zine: https://imgur.com/a/JbhwWeB
Formed May 1986.

Needs research. - Aggressiva / Aggressive, name later changed to Agente Laranja
Location: Goiânia, Goiás, Brazil
Needs research. - O.V.E.C.
Location: Santos, São Paulo, Brazil
https://imgur.com/a/d0xfQmG

Needs research. - Putrid
Location: Ribeirão Pires, São Paulo, Brazil
https://imgur.com/a/7HgO0bZ
(mentions "The Storm" demo. Better that someone fluent in the language looks at all of these articles from the same 'zine)


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MetalCuresHeadaches
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 12, 2023 7:05 pm 
 

Needs research. - Norge

Location: Norway
Genre: Black Metal (presumably)
Years Active: 2002
Members: Sorg

Found while cleaning up a report. This was a one-off side-project from Sorg of Sorgsvart, which resulted in a self-titled demo in 2002. It's currently included in Sorgsvart's discography (EDIT: deleted from the site). It is probably the same black metal the main band plays, but I cannot find samples right now. VR is also somewhat shaky; our notes (on both Sorgsvart and the demo page) call it a "cassette demo", but there's no artwork/photos to corroborate.

The track listing:
1. Kråkaviso
2. Gaukatradl
3. Norigs menn
4. Revolusjonens Røyst
5. Eg veit meg eit land
6. Vidlamaen
7. Den edle riddar Valivan
8. Draumen om Norig den lever nu
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 12, 2023 7:13 pm 
 

Needs research. - Napalm Kill Death Terror
Location: Germany
- reviews in 2 'zines, "Epicus Doom" #5 (1989, where their tape is available for a high price of 20dm), and "Giants Lore" #3 (1990). Both reviews in German language: https://imgur.com/a/PCIObZ4
They seem to be a joke band, though might qualify for the site as many other joke bands have.

Both reviews, translated to English:
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What should one think of song titles like "Kill the death with blood", "The killdeath in hell", "Die in hell" and a band name like NAPALM KILL DEATH TERROR. I don't think it gets any more cliche than that. According to the band info, this is a project by 2 "musicians" who are also under contract with two other thrash metal bands that are very popular in Germany and England. However, I think it's more like two people trying to screw the metal scene and show that every idiot can play music a la A.0.K. and NAPALM DEATH can fabricate. This becomes evident in the strongly clichéd lyrics and in the ironic statements of the band bio. Excerpt: "Our lyrical concept includes neither the typical sex drugs and rock'n'roll" lyrics, nor any "Kill Death Blood" lyrics. We try to cover both areas with our lyrics so that our listeners can identify with our lyrics." The attempt to combine bludgeoning with keyboards is also funny and original. There is nothing on the demo that is worthy of the word "music". , but you can still call it a success, because the metal scene is being screwed in a wonderful way.

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The ingenious total prank on all garbage thrash bands with or without a record deal. Titles are, wonderfully senseless, "The Killdeath In Hell", "Metal Is The Best", "Alcolhol", "Mosh", "Mosh" (Remix) etc. Besides, image groups like ANTHRAX and TANKARD are also being promoted by the dirt, and when a vacuum cleaner actually sounds, we lie on the floor and vomit our innards with laughter - delicious!



Needs research. - T.C.O.T. / Tank Corps of Thrash
Discography: "Das Lied Vom Huhn" / "Boschwanza Metal" demos (for sale, 10dm)
- Reviewed in "Epicus Doom" #5 'zine (1989): https://imgur.com/a/aBBCyzi
Translated to English:
Spoiler: show
The task of every journalist (I see myself as one) is to remain objective. This is completely impossible with the present two tapes. T.C.O.T. stands for TANK CORPS OF THRASH. The music (I'm ashamed to use such a nice word for a stupid, primitive, deviant, discordant, atonal minor, but to call the whole thing noise would also be wrong) is extremely primitive. Detergent drums and a traveling guitar had to suffice for the first demo. On the second one there's also a drum machine and a bass (I just don't hear it). However, I vaguely doubt whether the boys take their cause seriously. The demos are nothing more than a huge heap of garbage, produced by some Stone Age mall men. The sound is absolutely miserable, but to put it more precisely, even crappy.... Ten marks for the demos recorded on old audio cassettes are simply ridiculous.

Contact: Christoph Neumann
Mühlenstr. 7
6551 Nusbaum


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Torquia
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 12, 2023 7:54 pm 
 

Here you have the album of Vir7u4l. I think that it's in the Nu Metal or Nu Metal/Groove field. Judge yourself:



If you decide that it's a band that deserves to be included, I have more info of them.

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BuriedUnborn
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 12, 2023 10:27 pm 
 

BuriedUnborn wrote:
RetinalBurns wrote:
Needs research. - Death Agressor
Location: Brazil
- Obscure metal band that formed no later than 1989, and they have a Facebook page. Haven't looked at it thoroughly or messaged to ask if they released anything.
https://www.facebook.com/deathagressor/


Sent them a message in Portuguese asking if they recorded anything. Will keep you updated.


They have a YouTube channel with two rehearsals from 1988, surely recorded on tape. Whether they distributed this is unknown. I can maybe ask about it but it might be a bit complicated to phrase the question in an understandable way.
https://www.youtube.com/@deathagressor6113/
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baldadeath
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 12, 2023 11:30 pm 
 

tahu157 wrote:
RetinalBurns wrote:
Trachoma are also from Brazil, and should be submitted to the site. Not the same band.
https://www.facebook.com/mino.micali/po ... cale=ms_MY

Good find, thank you!


Where did you have it in a want list? Do you have a link to a listing for it and did that listing have a full tracklist?


No, as I said I have it in a want list (I mean, the italian Trachoma).... just a list of band names and demo/album titles. Nothing more, nothing less...

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baldadeath
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 12, 2023 11:39 pm 
 

Azmodes wrote:
baldadeath wrote:
Added. - Spine
Spoiler: show
Location: Auckland, New Zealand
Genre: Death / Thrash Metal

https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Spine/3540442207

Nothing known beside this photo and the music style

Found the demo on Slsk (if anyone wants it, PM me) and it's death/thrash indeed. I took the liberty of adding the band, but used some of your draft's info and awarded you points for your contributions. :headbang:


ah, thanks. well, as I said everybody can use my drafts to fulfill the missing information. to be honest i don't mind about points or awards. I just to it for the sake of completeness and sharing information with everybody and make the M-A the best resource available in the world despite I know many people who hide information on purpose in order to boycott M-A (same things: just because this or that band was not accepted and things like that...)

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baldadeath
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 12, 2023 11:47 pm 
 

PaganiusI wrote:
Needs research. - Terraclipse
Genre: Prog Metal
Location: Portland, Oregon, USA

https://soundcloud.com/terraclipse

Apparently released the EP "Project: Chronos" in 2013, presumably on Bandcamp though there's no archived page for their Bandcamp page available.
Tracklist:
1. Terra Gaia 06:51
2. Blood of Time 04:46
3. Project: Chronos 02:04

Needs proof for VR.



Needs research. - Pathrashitell
Genre: Thrash Metal?
Location: Minsk, Belarus

According to this site, they released an album called "Humanoid System" in 2015:
http://thethrashmetalguide.com/P-PP.html

According to an old submission, they also released an EP called "Death Notes" in 2013:
1. Intro 00:49
2. Riot Of The Demons 04:34
3. Vaporized 02:25
4. Born In The Grave 04:04
5. Whisper Of The Dead 02:32
6. Mosh In The Church (Bonus Track) 04:08

Both need samples and proof for VR.


That Thrash Metal Guide might be worth going through in general, not sure if anyone mentioned it here before:
http://thethrashmetalguide.com/



Samples are on VKontakte but I can't find any page for them. Just songs:

https://vk.com/search?c%5Bper_page%5D=2 ... n%5D=audio

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baldadeath
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 13, 2023 1:51 am 
 

you may all probably know this page, but in case I post the link. Lot of obscure russian bands from the 90's and some new stuff. With great scans and tons of audio samples, if not full tapes. One of the best resources for old russian metal:

https://vk.com/club119219479

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Azmodes
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 13, 2023 6:28 am 
 

Torquia wrote:
Here you have the album of Vir7u4l. I think that it's in the Nu Metal or Nu Metal/Groove field. Judge yourself:



If you decide that it's a band that deserves to be included, I have more info of them.

Please read the OP. This thread isn't for assessing a band's metalness per se. If you think the band qualifies and there is evidence for a valid release, submit it to the queue.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 13, 2023 6:56 am 
 

Azmodes, I moved Incignia from the part 1 of my list to part 2 as I've reached the character limit on the first post, just so you can update it on the main research list.
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odium
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 13, 2023 10:00 am 
 

Saw the news on the main site, regarding the bands that need research. Checked Lithuanian bands in that file; particularly, Ramybės Skveras (wrong misspeling in the file, Ramybes Skvras) has already been blacklisted for being non-metal (https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Ra ... 3540449252).

Will check for more info on LTU bands from time to time.

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Thanks, removed! Glad to see the news post is helping. :)
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 13, 2023 11:00 am 
 

Found an interesting website for bands from Uzbekistan even if a lot of bands from Kazakhstan and Turkmenistan are listed as well:

http://uzrock.net/Groups/groups.html


Lot of unknown bands. Most notably:

- Forrest Gump (later Rekviem): it seems they recorded one demo with 15 tracks in 1999 ("Den' sveta") and one more in 2002 with 8 songs as Revkiem:

http://uzrock.net/Groups/forrest.html

- Conquistador: really nice thrash metal from the 90's (still active in the 2000). According to their VK page, it seems they recorded a lot of albums: "Apokalipsis" LP (?) 1997, "Seventh Life" Rehearsal Album (?) 2003, "Pravosudie" Demo 2006, "Omen" LP (?) 2009,

https://vk.com/audios-49739646
https://vk.com/conquistador91

- Kresh / Crash: active in the 90's. They recorded a demo in 1997

http://uzrock.net/Groups/crash.html

- Detonator: active from 1995 to 1999. They recorded 2 demos ("Krov za krov" and "Imperiya zla") and one live demo ("Beguschaya po volnam") in 1998

http://uzrock.net/History/detonat.html

- Kapriz Ognya: "Obrechennyiy na stradanie" Album 2005 (7 songs)

http://uzrock.net/Groups/ko.html

- Trupnyi Yad: Live at DK TashSelmash "Krematoriy" 1998 (5 tracks) + new tracls 2014

http://uzrock.net/Groups/tya.html

- Rejs 09: it seems their latest albums (the page redirects to their old website) are towards progressive metal, but they recorded no less than 10 albums from 1990 and a 30-minutes live recording in 1991. Need to theck their latest albums (all released on CD, as it seems):

http://www.progressor.net/flight09/albums.html

- Cross-Section: melodic metal. It looks like they recorded a studio album in the 2000's:

http://www.crosssection.narod.ru/

- My World Inside: they released one single at least ("Shagaya naprolom" in 2020, but it sounds more metalcore:

https://vk.com/my_world_inside
https://vk.com/audios-54515906

- Sweet Silence: it seems they were planning to record a demo in the second half of 2000's:

http://uzrock.net/Groups/ss.html

- Spirit Experience: they may have recorded something (singles or demos):

https://vk.com/club22344338

- Savage Soul: deathcore, maybe not interesting. They have several songs:

https://vk.com/savage_soul_official


And several other bands (metal, thrash, death) whose links do not work anymore.

Plus, I add from my datas:

- Reinkarnator: a 20-minute album (year unknown)
- Shtorm: threre is a 45-minutes demo recorded in 1989

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 13, 2023 11:41 am 
 

Needs research. - Arbitrage
Location: Lynden, Washington, US
Listed genre: Industrial Metal (a christian band)
Band member: https://www.metal-archives.com/artists/ ... ink/794227 (all words and music)
Discography: "Music for the Sacrifice" (1991, cassette)
eBay: https://www.ebay.com/itm/325772337306
Write-up/more information: https://christiantapeunderground.wordpr ... sacrifice/
- information about more of their releases, some or all not as promising sounding: https://downthelinezine.com/cue/arbitrage

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 13, 2023 1:31 pm 
 

PaganiusI wrote:
Listening to that comp that features Eroticism, they still sound fine to me. Needs more proof regarding the release though.

Found another band on that comp that seems to be worth investigating:
Needs research. - Zeä~Nä
Genre: Heavy Metal/Hard Rock
Country: Japan
Known Members: Akira (based on the demo cover and this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rIlPuIwdf1c)

Seems like they released a demo tape in 1995, but I need more info on that.
https://www.discogs.com/Ze%C3%A4N%C3%A4 ... e/12159397

Judging by the cover it is related to this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Club_Citta
So probably a live recording.

Featured with two pretty metal tracks here:
https://www.discogs.com/Various-%E6%BC% ... se/7250480

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJT-hTxCg00
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YureHbq4tJ4

there's also a ballad on youtube:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88nA_cJit6U

Related comments:
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billm99uk wrote:
vkgy have a full line-up here: https://vk.gy/artists/zea-na/

The Japanese says 無料配布 デモテープ (Muryō haifu demo tape / free distribution demo tape) so, like the EVE tape earlier, it was given away 'free' to people who bought tickets and attended the show at Club Citta (Kawasaki) on 5/27/1995.

PaganiusI wrote:
Re-Zeä~Nä:
Since the tracks on youtube are rather ambiguous and aren't featured on any valid release (that we know of), I'd love to hear that tape, so if anyone finds that... ;)


Their eponymous demo has two tracks (https://vk.gy/releases/zea-na/25891/zea-na/), of which one is DISCHARGE (and the same song as one of the two links you sent). They can be heard here:
https://voca.ro/1dS2vUw1bV5c (01. xxx mistake)
https://voca.ro/11fNidJSMtj6 (02. DISCHARGE)

Hope this helps!

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 13, 2023 4:08 pm 
 

RetinalBurns wrote:
Needs research. - Cryptikator
Location: US
Listed genre: Death Metal
Discography: "Techokolypse" CD-R (2021, Necrogue Records)
Discogs: https://www.discogs.com/release/2781262 ... chokolypse (1 for sale, $9.99 in the US)
- despite being released only 2 years ago, there's little trace of it online. It was once sold on a website where the listing expired, but you can still see a small picture that includes the back on Google from when it had been available there) -
https://www.google.com/search?q=%22cryp ... JM&vssid=l


I found the full album stream on YouTube. For me it sounds more like cybergrind instead of death metal (the genre is updated on Discogs too).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQY2q5V6hhY

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 13, 2023 4:57 pm 
 

BuriedUnborn wrote:
Needs research. - The Blood of Your Loved Ones (United States)

Deathcore band, most likely from Iowa, active during the mid-to-late 2000s. They released a self-titled album in 2007, of which I haven't been able to find any samples.


Their ReverbNation page has some samples taken from the album.

https://www.reverbnation.com/thebloodof ... ones/songs

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 13, 2023 5:17 pm 
 

KingSpooky wrote:
Needs research. - Daemon
Location: United States
Listed genre: Death Metal, Alternative Metal
Discography: "Headsplitting" E.P. (2000), "Gravedance" album (2001, Fminus Productions), both on CD format
Discogs: https://www.discogs.com/artist/13081587-Daemon-31


Found their track "Fifteen" from "Headsplitting" EP. Band's line-up is also presented in description.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x4ucSvVyh0A

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 13, 2023 6:08 pm 
 

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Legion of Thunder

Location: Jagodina, Serbia
Genre: Thrash(?) Metal
Formed: 2009

Members:
Nicola (allegedly)

Came across this in the report queue. A (probably racist?) thrash band from Serbia, it appears to share members with Proviđenje, a full-on white supremacist RAC group from Serbia that's on the blacklist. Knowing the other bands they share ties with, there's probably at least some RAC in their sound as well. They have 2 EPs and an album, though I can't really confirm VR. The only place really mentioning them is Spirit of Metal, and they have no info about physical or digital release. I also can't really find samples of them. Their YouTube channel has most of their songs in live versions, but I've come up empty as far as the studio recordings, even on the usual NS and RAC fileshares, and those live versions are from 2011, so the audio quality is pretty muddy. The only social I can find is a dead MySpace account.

Links:
*MySpace
*YouTube
*Spirit of Metal entry


Kenner found samples and added this one. Straightforward thrash.
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Miro Alhonniemi wrote:
BuriedUnborn wrote:
Needs research. - The Blood of Your Loved Ones (United States)

Deathcore band, most likely from Iowa, active during the mid-to-late 2000s. They released a self-titled album in 2007, of which I haven't been able to find any samples.


Their ReverbNation page has some samples taken from the album.

https://www.reverbnation.com/thebloodof ... ones/songs


Thanks. I will submit them based on this evidence.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 14, 2023 1:13 am 
 

I'm not in the habit of looking at this forum very often, but due to the interesting information you presented in the last few days, I remembered this topic and that maybe you could post some Brazilian bands that still need information, and to my surprise and happiness these bands were here. Well, I'll try to help with the little information I've got...

RetinalBurns wrote:
Needs research. - Death Agressor
Location: Brazil
- Obscure metal band that formed no later than 1989, and they have a Facebook page. Haven't looked at it thoroughly or messaged to ask if they released anything.
https://www.facebook.com/deathagressor/


Despite the band had playing some gigs, all the information I got until today was that the band didn't have any official records recorded. Anyway, I sent a message to the former frontman of the band and any news I'll post here. BTW, they are from Araxá, Minas Gerais.

RetinalBurns wrote:
^Thank you.

Needs research. - Alerta Vermelho (translates to Red Alert)
Location: Belo Horizonte, Brazil
https://imgur.com/a/RK3dUFO (article from "Metal Blood" #4 'zine, 1989/1990)
Roughly translated parts of the above article: band was formed in July 88, only now the band stabilizes with MADSON (bass and vocals), Paulo Red (guitar and vocals) and Boca (vocal drums). The sound of metal one O at ban ALERTA is a thrash core with good foundations and great work, that's what we can see in the first Demo-tape from da, which contains the songs... (titles in the article match the ones listed here:
https://www.guitars101.com/threads/aler ... are.95729/
(link is dead)


I ended up submitting this band before seeing this post (but if any moderator sees any basis for what I say, feel free to decline my submission and ask the post author here to re-submit it), because the information found in the fanzine Metal Blood #4 are enough for the band to be submitted. It implies that the demo is official when it is mentioned "[...] a thrash metal core with good bases and a great work, that's what we can prove in the band's first Demo-tape (...)" and also in this part "[...] without a doubt a great debut of the band in Demo-Tape.".

RetinalBurns wrote:
Needs research. - Fahrenheit
Location: Teresina, Piauí, Brazil
Genre: Thrash/Speed Metal
Band members: https://www.metal-archives.com/artists/ ... les/181752 (bass, vocals)
Marcilio (drums)
Alexandre (guitars)
- article in "Metal Blood" #4 (1989/'90): https://imgur.com/a/YHfxQ7K
The article above compares their sound to Slayer and Sodom, and says that they recorded an unofficial demo with the songs "Victim of Destiny", "Fill or Die" (possibly a typo of "Kill or Die"), "Mong Four Walls", and "Wear Minds".
Referenced in this article for the band Scud, which Fawster (R.I.P. 2022) went on to play in.
https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scud_(banda)


One of the most important Thrash/Death Metal bands in scene from Piauí state, having played some shows in the region. The band appears to have lasted into the early 1990s and is likely to have only recorded a demo. In addition to having sent a message to their former vocalist, a contact has a tape of the band and was left to verify if it was the same mentioned in Metal Blood #4 or another recording. I hope to have news in the next few days. By the way, the band's sound can be checked out here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=de3Fn5B0IkM

RetinalBurns wrote:
Needs research. - Ofence
Needs research. - Noisy Life
- 2 more Brazilian bands that are featured in 1989 "Mad House" #3 'zine.
https://imgur.com/a/9mbb1gX


Despite never having heard Ofence, and the band having played several shows with metal bands, all the information I read about the band was that their sound was a hardcore similar to Ação Direta, Cólera, and early Ratos de Porão. The band released 3 demo-tapes at the end of the 80's and beginning of the 90's: "Immortality", "Descontrol" and "Let's Get Drunk!!!", but as I said above, I don't know if they had enough metal elements to be accepted on the site.
As for Noisylife it seems to be a Death/Grind band, but the review doesn't mention any recording, even rehearsal.

RetinalBurns wrote:
Needs research. - Witchcraft
Location: Salvador, Bahia, Brazil
Genre: Thrash Metal
https://imgur.com/a/4Gm1Y8C (article in "Mad House" #3 'zine)
Rough translation to English:
Spoiler: show
Band from Salvador formed in June of 89, with the proposal of making a Thrash sound.
In the rehearsals, 2 musicas: Witchcraft(inst.) and Final War.
Changes begin to occur: Leonel(baterista) leaves the band and Nal, ba Morbid Corpse terista keeps breaking the branch, until they find France. After the entry of the new drummer, Antony moves on to lead guitar alongside Lukas who takes over the vocals, thus becoming the current formation of the band: Lukas (guitar/vocals), Antony (guitar), Sid (bass) , France (drums). Along with the band comes the band's proposal to make a worked and original Thrash.


Needs research. - Perpetuo
Also from the same 'zine: https://imgur.com/a/JbhwWeB
Formed May 1986.

Needs research. - Aggressiva / Aggressive
Location: Goiânia, Goiás, Brazil
Needs research. - O.V.E.C.
Location: Santos, São Paulo, Brazil
https://imgur.com/a/d0xfQmG

Needs research. - Putrid
Location: Ribeirão Pires, São Paulo, Brazil
https://imgur.com/a/7HgO0bZ
(mentions "The Storm" demo. Better that someone fluent in the language looks at all of these articles from the same 'zine)


Witchcraft: The review in Mad House #3 implies that the two songs were written in the band's first rehearsals (and not that the band recorded a rehearsal with these songs). I don't doubt that the band recorded and released at least some rehearsals, as I know people who corresponded with them at the time. I have a picture of them too that I got from one of those people, but I need to look it up here. That's all I know at the moment.

Perpetuo: From the review of Mad House #3, it seems that the band had already composed 10 (?) songs, but that they hadn't recorded anything yet. The band's proposal is Death Metal/Grind Core.

Aggressive: The band played some shows in Goias state and played the Thrash Metal/Crossover style. The people there who played with them and participated in the scene and that I managed to ask about couldn't tell me if the band had recorded anything (in the review it's not clear if the 6 compositions were recorded in some rehearsal or something like that), even this "future" demo "Putrid Society". Shortly after, the band changed its name to Agente Laranja (Agent Orange), but with the same sound proposal (Thrash Metal/Crossover). I don't know if they recorded anything under that name either.

*Personal note about "core" term: I interviewed some people who lived in the scene in the 80's to find out more about these terms that were used in Brazil at the time ("Thrashcore, Deathcore, etc.") to see if it had any resemblance to what is done today, and everyone told me that the perception at the time was that they used that term when metal bands (more common in Thrash and Death Metal) didn't have (or had very few) ) guitar solos. An example of a landmark "Deathcore" album at the time is Psycho Possessor's "Toxin Diffusion".

O.V.E.C.: Hardcore:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B68KR8-bt9c

Putrid: The band's review doesn't bring any relevant information about the band's style (the fourth question is about that, and the answer is quite ambiguous, as they answer that they don't stick to labels - if it's a Thrash, Death, Black, etc. - despite mentioning the bands they admire in question 6), but who make a sound without technique, fast, with simple rhythms and fucked up vocals. The last question, which asks about the band's future, is answered in a way that the band's priority is to rehearse, create more songs and do more shows to promote the band's sound, and no demos or other recordings.

BONUS: Insane War: I though that the band was in the same situation as Death Agressor and that they wouldn't have recorded anything official (although I had already seen a rehearsal from 1989 that is 13 min. and that is probably not the same rehearsal that was reviewed in Metal Blood # 4), as no release I've read attests to this fact. However, it's a band that emerged in the rise of Warfare Noise opportunity, and may be that they have tried to get a spot on the third edition of the compilation. I'll try to find more information in the future as well.

And well, I leave the space here free whenever you all need translations from Portuguese. Unfortunately I haven't been here much, and I keep forgetting to look at this thread, but just send me a PM or email and I'll be happy to help in any way I can.

Well, I hope these information can be of some use.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 14, 2023 5:53 am 
 

baldadeath wrote:
Various romanian bands
Needs research. - Iarmarock
Location: Romania
Listed genre: ?
Discography: "Reptila Petrila" Demo 1994 (?)


Both of their albums listed on Discogs are streamed on YouTube. In my opinion it's pure blues rock as described.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iWjZunhv_n8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZ2Y9ttRRrU

slon1936 wrote:
The database of the Russian Far East is located here: https://7775.ucoz.ru/index/dalnevostoch ... y_1_g/0-46

It's still incomplete, of course, and recordings of many bands are probably no longer to be found, but some interesting pieces of history are definitely there.

(added a link to this from the main list - 'Russian Far East database of bands' - thanks!)


Took a closer look on Мимо Проходили and Scream of Dream. Former sounds progressive rock, the latter could be submitted as progressive metal (still quite borderline in my opinion).

https://www.realrocks.ru/id244380/music/1912528/ (Мимо Проходили)
https://mp3.pm/song/124926974/Scream_Of ... m_2005_g./ (Scream of Dream)

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 14, 2023 6:14 am 
 

Thanks for the information, Dudgeon. That's completely fine that you submitted Alerta Vermelho, and I'm glad to know they may soon be added to the site. If you scroll slightly to the right in the new research master list, if the posting user's name is in green lettering, it means that they approve of other people submitting the band if enough information is found.
https://azmodeszer.github.io/mabandrese ... earch.html

It sounds like there isn't much significant or hopeful information about Noisy Life or Putrid, and they could both be removed in my opinion. O.V.E.C. should be removed as well (hardcore, from samples). Ofence could probably be removed, based on the music descriptions that you've read about them from more than one source.

Daemon (US, nu-metal) and Cryptikator (US, non-metallic cybergrind) can also be removed and blacklisted. Thanks for finding the samples, Miro.


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 14, 2023 7:16 am 
 

baldadeath wrote:
Needs research. - Altera
Location: Blagoveschensk (?), Russia
Listed genre: ?
Discography: "Pressure" Demo 1996

https://imgur.com/wzHYnht
https://imgur.com/KZIBeXi
https://imgur.com/Kaf7pTC


Song "Crawling to the Sunshine":
https://mp3.pm/song/43089442/Altera_-_C ... _Sunshine/

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 14, 2023 8:12 am 
 

baldadeath wrote:
BALDADEATH RESEARCH LIST (click 'show')
SAUDI ARABIA

Anatolia: Moods Tape Album 1993


3 songs on the album were loaded on YouTube. I think this goes more to the rock side.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGbNuesB_jc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xl6ny_Wq80Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wAq7gHVw24Y

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 14, 2023 10:24 am 
 

List should be caught up to here now.

Dudgeon wrote:
*Personal note about "core" term: I interviewed some people who lived in the scene in the 80's to find out more about these terms that were used in Brazil at the time ("Thrashcore, Deathcore, etc.") to see if it had any resemblance to what is done today, and everyone told me that the perception at the time was that they used that term when metal bands (more common in Thrash and Death Metal) didn't have (or had very few) ) guitar solos. An example of a landmark "Deathcore" album at the time is Psycho Possessor's "Toxin Diffusion".

hmmmmm, fair enough, I suppose, and thanks for providing some context. I rejected your sub for Red Alert before reading this. I'll restore it. :)
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 14, 2023 6:22 pm 
 

Miro Alhonniemi wrote:
baldadeath wrote:
BALDADEATH RESEARCH LIST (click 'show')
SAUDI ARABIA

Anatolia: Moods Tape Album 1993


3 songs on the album were loaded on YouTube. I think this goes more to the rock side.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGbNuesB_jc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xl6ny_Wq80Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wAq7gHVw24Y



Yeah, I already asked the guy a couple years ago if he could upload the full album. One song ("The Promise") is ok, another one ("One Man's World") is just the typical romantic fill-in like in every eastern rock album and the third one ("Unromantic Love Song") is just so-so, modern hard rock/grunge somehow. Waiting for more songs but never seen any update since long time

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 14, 2023 6:42 pm 
 

Miro Alhonniemi wrote:
baldadeath wrote:
Needs research. - Altera
Location: Blagoveschensk (?), Russia
Listed genre: ?
Discography: "Pressure" Demo 1996

https://imgur.com/wzHYnht
https://imgur.com/KZIBeXi
https://imgur.com/Kaf7pTC


Song "Crawling to the Sunshine":
https://mp3.pm/song/43089442/Altera_-_C ... _Sunshine/


Can't open the link but on VKontakte there should be one song ("Epilepsy Bout") from the tape (last song "Epilepsy" ?). There are several other songs by Altera but I have no idea if it's the same band as none of them are listed on the tape:

https://vk.com/search?c%5Bper_page%5D=2 ... n%5D=audio

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 14, 2023 6:50 pm 
 

RetinalBurns wrote:
Thanks for the information, Dudgeon. That's completely fine that you submitted Alerta Vermelho, and I'm glad to know they may soon be added to the site. If you scroll slightly to the right in the new research master list, if the posting user's name is in green lettering, it means that they approve of other people submitting the band if enough information is found.
https://azmodeszer.github.io/mabandrese ... earch.html

It sounds like there isn't much significant or hopeful information about Noisy Life or Putrid, and they could both be removed in my opinion. O.V.E.C. should be removed as well (hardcore, from samples). Ofence could probably be removed, based on the music descriptions that you've read about them from more than one source.


I thank you for the kind words, RetinalBurns, and also for sharing this link with bands with relevant information (thanks also to Azmodes for the work). One of the reasons I rarely look here is that I don't know how this topic works, or even does research, but this link will give me a head start before I try to submit anything.

Regarding Noisy Life and Putrid, unfortunately it was very common in Brazil in the 80's for some bands to only send releases to fanzines. In fact, in the editorial of this issue of Metal Blood #4, Rolldão comments on this part (a direct quote, starting with the seventeenth line of the Editorial):

"[...] We would also like to make it very clear that we will only disclose the bands that send their "complete" material, since most bands only send us the biography (release) and a photo [...]"

Several reasons at the time explain this practice, such as amateurism and costs, but many fanzines ended up publishing these releases without much solid information about these bands, and this brings an ambiguity to anyone who is doing some research about these bands nowadays. By the way, this is more materiality for a thread I promised KingSpooky (and which I really hope will come out later this year). But resuming, I don't think these bands should go to the Blacklist, but I believe they need more materiality about recordings (mainly), and if possible samples, especially Noisylife. As for the O.V.E.C. and Ofence, I would recommend leaving it on the Blacklist, because all the information confirms that they are Hardcore bands. I don't know if there are enough stuffs from them that can be characterized as metal, and if there is, I also don't know if they would be enough to be accepted, because it seems that they are bands that had, even in the underground, a recording career - even if demos - more successful than most Brazilian bands. I'm going to leave here a inner tape cover of "Let's Get Drunk!!!" from 1989 (I was told that the demos were on YouTube, but I couldn't find them):

https://i.ibb.co/JpjjtyX/Ofence-Let-s-G ... -inner.jpg

Azmodes wrote:
hmmmmm, fair enough, I suppose, and thanks for providing some context. I rejected your sub for Red Alert before reading this. I'll restore it. :)


I thank you immensely, Azmodes. Incidentally, this is an obstacle that some people have faced since the Brazilian magazines of the 1980s began to emerge on the Internet. Here in Brazil it wasn't very common to use other terms to designate other styles (many Thrash Metal bands were called Power and Death Metal in the 80's by these magazines and fanzines), and I'm interviewing a lot of people to find out more about it how this was addressed. Metalcore, Thrashcore and Deathcore were seen in the same way. All are synonymous with "Crossover" as we understand it today, so to speak (Metalcore was the nomenclature we understand nowadays what Crossover is. Thrashcore and Deathcore are Thrash Metal and Death Metal without guitar solos, with a more "direct" approach, according to reports and interviews I did about the theme. But in all cases they are bands with more metal elements than hardcore), as the term was not used in Brazil in the 1980s. At least not what these styles ended up becoming and are understood today.
The term Thrash Metal itself only began to be widely used from 1988/1989, largely due to the success of bands like Metallica, Anthrax and Testament, and bands that had a sound like Slayer, Dark Angel and Kreator for example, were called Death Metal (pronounced "Déti Metal").

I'm going to leave here a promotional poster that demonstrates how things weren't very clear at the time (it looks like a meme, but it's not!):

https://i.ibb.co/fFg1dtJ/Slayer.jpg


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Needs research. - Red Vette
Location: Gomel, Belarus
Listed genre: Hard Rock / Metal
Line-up: Alexey Korshun / Алексей Коршун (also in Thelema, Chemical Warfare and T7T) on vocals
Discography: "Live After Budun" Live CD-R

I only have this photo and there are 2 songs, "Electroshit" and "Let It Beer" (from the live CD?) on VKontakte. Seems not bad, a mix of metal, crossover, hard rock...:

https://vk.com/audio?section=recoms_blo ... cMAFlfcFIU

https://imgur.com/jT0tJDM

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 14, 2023 7:29 pm 
 

Added. - Cronation
Spoiler: show
Location: Gomel, Belarus
Listed genre: Death / Thrash Metal
Discography: "Five Steps to Die" Demo Tape 1999 + Rehearsal 1992 + Live Demo 1993

They are already listed in the Azmodes' list and I already created a draft several months ago, but I can confirm that they are death/thrash, at least in their live demo. There are also 3 songs which I believe they belong to the tape 1999, where the style is a little bit different but - in my opinion - still fitting MA. Songs can be found here, but the full tape 1999 still remains unavailable. I asked the original uploader to re-upload it, but nothing happened. Anyway I am quite sure the 3 songs linked below belong to the 1999 tape as, from the various links given below, they are described as "thrash" or "angry hardcore" or "Noisy, mostly mid-paced, thrashcore with shades of crust and sludge" which I think fits the sound of these 3 songs available:

https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Cr ... 3540513475

bio (described their style as thrash-death + list of releases up to December 1993 + song from Rehearsal 1992):

https://vk.com/search?c%5Bper_page%5D=4 ... 9_00%2Frev

bio in JPG for better view:

https://sun9-60.userapi.com/impg/c4u1_u ... type=album


Live Demo 1993:

https://soundcloud.com/garm82/cronation-1-intro
https://soundcloud.com/garm82/cronation ... t-i-can-do
https://soundcloud.com/garm82/cronation-3-morbit-dreams
https://soundcloud.com/garm82/cronation ... human-race

This should be the Tape 1999 but I am not sure (but I think it is, as it is a little bit different in sound and in various links below it is described as thrash metal or Noisy, mostly mid-paced, thrashcore with shades of crust and sludge (and I think the description fits well):

https://soundcloud.com/garm82/track-1
https://soundcloud.com/garm82/track-5
https://soundcloud.com/garm82/track-6


Other songs:

https://vk.com/audio?section=recoms_blo ... E8BBlJQfxY

https://vk.com/search?c%5Bper_page%5D=2 ... n%5D=audio


Tape for sale (described as Thrash Metal):

https://depressiveillusions.com/items/t ... -steps-die

Tape 1999:

https://metalarea.org/forum/index.php?s ... =cronation

Review:

http://www.thethrashmetalguide.com/CP-CZ.html


Other sources:

https://textarchive.ru/c-1945779-pall.html

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^Looks good to submit.
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