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DaBuddha
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 14, 2006 10:11 pm 
 

** Burzum "Ragnarok (A new Beginning)" (2001) CD

Varg himself considers this to be official. It's on Burzum.org

** Emperor "Witches Sabbath" 7"EP

It's listed on Emperor's website under official releases.

EDIT: The Emperor release is indeed a bootleg.
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Evenfiel
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 14, 2006 10:55 pm 
 

DaBuddha wrote:
** Burzum "Ragnarok (A new Beginning)" (2001) CD

Varg himself considers this to be official. It's on Burzum.org


Could you show it to me then?
http://www.burzum.org/eng/discography

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RubenP
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 4:20 pm 
 

The "True Kings Of Norway" split
http://www.metal-archives.com/release.php?id=111143
is also a bootleg, as we can read in this interview with Abbath: http://www.lordsofmetal.nl/showinterview.php?id=401

I reported this one, and I thought it was removed but somehow it's back again...

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fukkwitt
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 21, 2006 11:03 am 
 

Immortal may not have agreed for that cd to be released, but at least Arcturus and Immortal did, as they specifically remastered their stuff for that comp/split. It also appears that Abbath is talking about a different bootleg/confusing it with another record, as he mentions Bathory who are not even on that record.
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Evenfiel
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 21, 2006 11:49 am 
 

Also, Dimmu Borgir and Ancient mentions that split in their site. Btw, that interview was done with Iscariah, not Abbath.

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peterott
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 28, 2006 4:47 am 
 

I am wondering if the Morbid - Deathexecution LP whcih was released by Holycaust Records in a edition of 100 copies (the one with the golden logo) is a bootleg or not. Acc. insert of the LP, it was even planned to have photos, all lyrics "and stuff" (whatever "stuff" means here). My question: Is this releasew considered a bootleg or not ? I never read a Morbid interview (post-Morbid interviews, liek the one in Slayer #17 or so) asking about that LP.

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RubenP
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 29, 2006 12:34 pm 
 

fukkwitt wrote:
Immortal may not have agreed for that cd to be released, but at least Arcturus and Immortal did, as they specifically remastered their stuff for that comp/split. It also appears that Abbath is talking about a different bootleg/confusing it with another record, as he mentions Bathory who are not even on that record.


That one also made me think... but I thought I'd just report it, just in case.

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BlackMetalGirl
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 31, 2006 5:13 am 
 

Hi,
sorry maybe you have already discussed about that, but i think that Burzum's album Draugen - Rarities could be considered as an official release. On Audioglobe site this album is described in this way:

...Questo “Draugen – Rarities” è una raccolta di materiale raro, già pubblicato su un cd bootleg non autorizzato dalla band, ed è adesso reso ufficialmente disponibile, dopo essere stato rimasterizzato e con veste grafica approvata dall’ artista...

There is written that Draugen - Rarities is a collection of rare songs previously released as bootleg, but NOW released OFFICIALLY, after being remastered with A NEW GRAPHICAL PACKAGE APPROVED BY BURZUM.

What do you think about that?

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fukkwitt
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 31, 2006 7:13 am 
 

Well it doesen't matter what they say, as long as it contains two fake songs - one of them not even by Burzum at all.
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Evenfiel
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 31, 2006 8:51 am 
 

BlackMetalGirl wrote:
Hi,
What do you think about that?


If it's not on Burzum's official site, it's considered a bootleg. That album isn't.

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BlackMetalGirl
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 31, 2006 10:51 am 
 

fukkwitt wrote:
Well it doesen't matter what they say, as long as it contains two fake songs - one of them not even by Burzum at all.


Yes...but it don't understand, why Seven Harmonies appears as a Burzum song...excuse me my ignorance, but i really don't understand!!! And it's strange because this album does not look like a bootleg...

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Evenfiel
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 31, 2006 10:54 am 
 

Lots of bootlegs don't look crappy.

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peterott
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 31, 2006 10:57 am 
 

peterott wrote:
I am wondering if the Morbid - Deathexecution LP whcih was released by Holycaust Records in a edition of 100 copies (the one with the golden logo) is a bootleg or not. Acc. insert of the LP, it was even planned to have photos, all lyrics "and stuff" (whatever "stuff" means here). My question: Is this releasew considered a bootleg or not ? I never read a Morbid interview (post-Morbid interviews, liek the one in Slayer #17 or so) asking about that LP.


anyone ? else I add it.

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fukkwitt
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 31, 2006 1:15 pm 
 

peterott wrote:
peterott wrote:
I am wondering if the Morbid - Deathexecution LP whcih was released by Holycaust Records in a edition of 100 copies (the one with the golden logo) is a bootleg or not. Acc. insert of the LP, it was even planned to have photos, all lyrics "and stuff" (whatever "stuff" means here). My question: Is this releasew considered a bootleg or not ? I never read a Morbid interview (post-Morbid interviews, liek the one in Slayer #17 or so) asking about that LP.


anyone ? else I add it.


Well, Holycaust is usually a legitimate label... but then again, sometimes even legitimate labels release bootlegs (as in the case of Burzum above, or just about any Karmageddon release, haha!). But yes, I have always wondered about that Morbid Lp too.
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fukkwitt
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 31, 2006 1:16 pm 
 

BlackMetalGirl wrote:
fukkwitt wrote:
Well it doesen't matter what they say, as long as it contains two fake songs - one of them not even by Burzum at all.


Yes...but it don't understand, why Seven Harmonies appears as a Burzum song...excuse me my ignorance, but i really don't understand!!! And it's strange because this album does not look like a bootleg...



BoB probably didn't bother to check it out I guess... A very unserious label.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 01, 2006 10:55 pm 
 

Mutiilation - Possessed and Immortal

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 09, 2006 11:06 am 
 

Carcass - "St. George's Hall, Bradford 15/11/89" 7"EP (Distorted Harmony)
Napalm Death - "From Enslavement to Obliteration" DEMO 1986
Napalm Death - Rehearsal Tape DEMO 1988
Napalm Death - "Extremity Retains" LP 1990 (Genocide)

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Drowned
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PostPosted: Tue May 16, 2006 8:11 pm 
 

Demon Pact - S/T LP 2005 (High Roller Records)

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peterott
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PostPosted: Wed May 17, 2006 2:01 am 
 

yes, finally, the Bathory - Hail Sathanas 7" which seems to be a bootleg from 1991 timeframe was bootlegged finally in 2006 again hehe...

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Evenfiel
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PostPosted: Wed May 17, 2006 9:32 am 
 

Fortunately, Bathory's discography is locked.

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Noktorn
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PostPosted: Sun May 21, 2006 7:16 pm 
 

Be aware of any Metallica releases from Vertigo. I found a couple bullshit compilations in their discography recently, named 'Saint And Anger' and 'Metallica'.
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PostPosted: Tue May 30, 2006 1:51 pm 
 

two new Bootlegs:

Burzum - Feeble Screams 7"
-> I wonder how many more Burzum EPs will come

Cradle Of Filth - The Beginning Of Filth CD
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peterott
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 10:47 am 
 

the usual dose of new Bootlegs:

Beherit - Beast Of Damantion 7" 2006
Burzum - Spell Of Destruction 7" 2006
Satyricon - Pesten 1996 7" 2006

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 23, 2006 3:54 am 
 

NAPALM DEATH / EXTREME NOISE TERROR - split LP (100 Grindcore Records)
NAPALM DEATH - Hatred Surge 7"EP (Never Healed Records)
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Keir
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 24, 2006 10:12 pm 
 

Drowned wrote:
Demon Pact - S/T LP 2005 (High Roller Records)
Is that a boot? I thought that HRR were legit.

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peterott
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 25, 2006 6:30 am 
 

Keir wrote:
Drowned wrote:
Demon Pact - S/T LP 2005 (High Roller Records)
Is that a boot? I thought that HRR were legit.


me too... also for the HELL LP

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peterott
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 09, 2006 9:36 am 
 

hmmm, two Razor LPs were released lately, but I guess both are bootlegs by one and the same person behind.

Razor - Live From The City Of Damnation LP
Razor - Escape The Fire LP



The Desultory demo compilation has no liner notes, no barcode, no booklet. Therefore I suggest it is a bootleg.

Desultory - Demo compilation CD

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Muloc7253
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 4:52 pm 
 

Arvinger - The Arvinger EP
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HDS
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 16, 2006 12:00 am 
 

Mutiilation - Posessed And Immortal

thats a bootleg but how is evil- the gestalt of abomination a bootleg too? it was in the list as the 2nd demo for months... and now all the sudden its out... how come?

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 10, 2006 4:50 pm 
 

Carpathian Forest - Bloodlust and Perversion

http://www.metal-archives.com/release.php?id=1754
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 10, 2006 9:04 pm 
 

Keir wrote:
Drowned wrote:
Demon Pact - S/T LP 2005 (High Roller Records)
Is that a boot? I thought that HRR were legit.


We originally got a report for it from a reliable contributor to the site. Here was his reply to an email I sent him:

"Please don't ban him. Its not his fault that bootlegging labels easily fool people by advertising their releases as legitimate. Please just make sure it 'the release' doesn't get back on the site. The HRR bootleg is sourced from a dubbed dusty old tape purchased from an American bootlegger years ago who claimed he had the rights. Paul Pelliter the old band manager and true rightful owner of Demon Pact's recordings has not authorised this release. High Roller Records is a known bootlegging label, also recently responsible for the Hell and Marquis De Sade bootlegs. Though HRR get fooled too, it doesn't make these releases ok.

There are plans for a legitimate releases of Demon Pact in the future I hear."

droneriot wrote:
Carpathian Forest - Bloodlust and Perversion

http://www.metal-archives.com/release.php?id=1754


I am not familiar with their material much, but according to the Black Metal List "Bloodlust and Perversion" was released by Avantgarde Records (e.g. unlikely that it was unofficial):

Carpathian Forest: Norway 1991-
# Primitive raw Black Metal with a bit of a Hellhammer feel and sometimes
# a "winter storm" feel
Bloodlust and Perversion/demo/1992
Promo 93/demo/1993
In These Trees Are My Gallows/demo/7"/1993 []
Through Chasms, Caves And Titan Woods/MCD/1995 [AG]
# Catchy "rock'n'roll" Black Metal
Bloodlust And Perversion/1997 [AG]
# The demo + more old material on CD
Black Shining Leather/1998 [AG]
Carpathian Forest/7"/1999 [AG]
# Picture disc even
Strange Old Brew/2000 [AG]
Under the Black Sun ‘99/MC/2000
# Live bootleg

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Drowned wrote:
droneriot wrote:
Carpathian Forest - Bloodlust and Perversion

http://www.metal-archives.com/release.php?id=1754


I am not familiar with their material much, but according to the Black Metal List "Bloodlust and Perversion" was released by Avantgarde Records (e.g. unlikely that it was unofficial):

Carpathian Forest: Norway 1991-
# Primitive raw Black Metal with a bit of a Hellhammer feel and sometimes
# a "winter storm" feel
Bloodlust and Perversion/demo/1992
Promo 93/demo/1993
In These Trees Are My Gallows/demo/7"/1993 []
Through Chasms, Caves And Titan Woods/MCD/1995 [AG]
# Catchy "rock'n'roll" Black Metal
Bloodlust And Perversion/1997 [AG]
# The demo + more old material on CD
Black Shining Leather/1998 [AG]
Carpathian Forest/7"/1999 [AG]
# Picture disc even
Strange Old Brew/2000 [AG]
Under the Black Sun ‘99/MC/2000
# Live bootleg

I have an old Carpathian Forest interview in which they tell the reader not to buy that damned bootleg (in a less polite manner).
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 10, 2006 10:03 pm 
 

Drowned wrote:
I am not familiar with their material much, but according to the Black Metal List "Bloodlust and Perversion" was released by Avantgarde Records (e.g. unlikely that it was unofficial):


Avantgarde does not list that release in their page. I'll send them an e-mail.

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peterott
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 11, 2006 1:36 am 
 

As far as I remember, this CD has been made by Last Epitaph/Last Episode (not mentioning their name on the CD of course), most probably without acceptance of the band. I may check this, if I find that fast in the heaps of zines I have at home.

But this is one of the borderline things which I do like to be included in the archives... you can also say that all the Warmaster Record stuff (e.g. Pagan Rites CD) is also a bootleg. In an old inti with Devil Lee Roth I read that he hates this bootleg, but admits that it has the best sound of all Pagan Rites releases...

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 08, 2006 7:25 am 
 

Beherit/Impaled Nazarene - Live In Damnation LP
Mayhem/Darkthrone - The True Legends In Black

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2 for the list:
Nargaroth: "Black Metal Ist Krieg and "Rasluka Part II" TAPE.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 01, 2006 6:45 am 
 

new Bootlegs:
Death (US) - How We Die Part 1 7"
Death (US) - How We Die Part 2 7"
Possessed - Ashes From Hell 7"

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 21, 2006 5:02 am 
 

ANTHRAX /Soldiers of Metal (Ridderkerk 19.05.86)/ LP
CRO-MAGS /live at le rendevous (Winnipeg 27.05.86)/ LP
CRO-MAGS /dreams in black 'n' white (Bochum 24.06.91)/ LP
DESTRUCTOR /back to bondage/ CDr
EXCITER /exciter live beast's (making some noise)/ LP
EXODUS /Hardcore Metal/ LP
EXODUS /And then there were...300/ LP
EXODUS /Bonded by Baloff/ CDr
HALLOWS EVE /D.I.E./ CDr
HALLOWS EVE /Tales of tours & demos/ CDr + DVDr
HOLOCAUSTO /War Metal Live/ Tape
KREATOR /We give you pain (berlin '89)/ CDr
MEGADETH /burnt offerings (19.02.84)/ CDr
MERCYFUL FATE /Curse of the pharaons/ LP
MERCYFUL FATE /House of satan/ CDr
MOTLEY CRUE /The devil (fresno '85)/ LP
RAZOR /slicing through canada (toronto 08.03.85, montreal 25.03.85) CDr
RAZOR /legacy of doom (toronto 12.07.85)/ CDr
RUNNING WILD /black demons on stage (loreley festival 14.05.85/) LP
RUNNING WILD /live at metalmania (katowice '87) CDr
SAVAGE GRACE /Time for hard 'n' heavy (loreley festival 14.05.85)/ LP
SLAYER /fuck the slayer (san francisco '83)/ LP
SLAYER /greetings from my guts (san francisco 13.07.84)/ LP
SLAYER /die halle (berlin 13.12.94)/ LP
S.O.D. /pussywhipped (06.10.85)/ LP
S.O.D. /stormtroopers of death part 1 (04.10.1985)/ LP
S.O.D. /what hapened to new jersey?/ LP
SODOM /in the sign of sodom (konz 15.04.90)/ LP
TWISTED SISTER /a fucking nightmare/ LP
VENOM /the second coming (25.08.96 eindhoven)/ LP
WHIPLASH /live at scum club, (katwijk 20.01.90)/ CDr
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 18, 2006 4:08 pm 
 

Darkthrone - Baptized In Blood CD

though one of the better bootlegs. The Rehearsal tracks from "A Blaze In The Northern Sky" were recorded under their Death Metal influence from 1991 with a great bass and guitarsound. Wow, even better then on "A Blaze...". But Bootleg is bootleg.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 21, 2006 5:08 am 
 

Mayhem - Last Breath Digi-CD
Rotting Christ - Live Mexiko CD (incl. Ade's Wind Promo)

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