Descension's genre is pretty inaccurate. I think "Extreme Gothic Metal" would be more fitting.

http://www.myspace.com/descension666

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=24971
http://www.myspace.com/legionro

They have modernized their sound, I think groove metal should be added to their genre.

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=45006
look in the additional notes of the album.
After the first album, the band seems to have wandered of into the pop/rock region.

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=49036

I couldn't find any music samples but wouldn't "Raw Black/Death Metal" be more logical/appropriate?

Gorement: http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=9649
Listed as "death metal", should be changed to "death/doom metal" as their sound is very similar to that of the Katatonia debut, but a bit more on the death metal side. The death metal to death/doom ratio is similar to that on the My Dying Bride debut album.

Fester (Nor): http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=2578 - listed as "Death Metal"

I have not heard their demos, but their first album is blackened death metal and their second album is pure black metal.

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=9274
really needs some additional description. Sounds in parts like modern Darkthrone.
http://www.myspace.com/haust

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=5740

Their current genre is really misleading.

From what i hear, their early stuff was some kind of folk metal:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6VUR3Hg4N-o
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sbPl__s0oxk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l6ThwmhG7zA

But they have become... Rammstein clones:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAAqpszWj7w
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uq4RQR34gNE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UmiNZInNgC0

Folk Metal (early), Industrial rock (now) ?

It might sound like a detail, but Pain of Salvation ( http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=547 ) is currently listed as "progressive metal", and looking at the diversity of their albums (believe me, not a single one of them is what can be considered "typical progressive metal"), I think "experimental progressive rock/metal" would be a better label. It just sums up the whole discography fairly well, and won't confuse anyone who is looking for standard progressive metal.

Just a few examples:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P5skSd5aFH8
! (Foreword) - from the debut album, Entropia
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bg_V5LS_9GA
Her Voices - third album, The Perfect Element
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DtF914AR3OQ
Chain Sling - fourth, Remedy Lane
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrHVmksnV9k
Disco Queen - sixth, Scarsick... yes, the title is serious, you have been warned
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cM9-EIg4AWA
No Way - new album, Road Salt One

I'd be grateful for this, it would make more sense than the way it is now.

Pain of Salvation's genre listing should definitely receive a change, seeing how the latest album and the previous Linoleum EP aren't metal, it's mostly 70's rock inspired stuff (as far as I know, the upcoming Road Salt Two will be in the same vein).

Some examples:
Linoleum and If You Wait from the Linoleum EP.
She Likes to Hide, Tell Me You Don't Know, Darkness of Mine from Road Salt One.

Basically every album after Remedy Lane is an entirely different genre, very very very very loosely connected to progressive rock/metal. The first four albums aren't "conventional" progressive rock/metal releases either, they go quite far from the usual standards. That's why I think my above suggestion just manages to sum it all up without a 300-character genre information in their profile.

Anyone?

Unseen Terror should absolutely have Grindcore under the genre. The death/thrash stuff isn't unfounded, but it's crazy not to call them grind.

Bringing up Mael Mordha again, as I still don't feel that they have any considerable amount of death metal in their sound. I think Doom/Folk Metal would be a much more appropriate tag. Someone mentioned previously that they're a bit blackened, which I didn't really see before, but is somewhat more appropriate considering the new album. However, for sake of brevity I think this can be left out as "folk metal" often implies some level of black metal influence. In any case, they don't sound remotely similar to any other "death/doom" band I've heard.

Anyway, samples are available on Myspace:
http://www.myspace.com/maelmorda

I noticed that Mastodon's genre had been changed to 'Technical/Progressive Groove Metal.' I'm sorry but they have nothing to do with groove metal. Placing them under the Sludge category with the technical/progressive adjectives made a lot more sense. I don't understand why this was changed as certainly their latest sound has branched out towards progressive rock and not Machine Head territory.


And ditto to the remarks on Unseen Terror above. Why was the grindcore tag removed?

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=3540270102

http://www.myspace.com/symphonycult

nowhere near Gothic Metal, pure metalcore with female vocals

What do they have to do with sludge? Where is the hardcore punk? Where is the doom?

Well it's more like an evolution of sludge, akin to Neurosis or Isis and not strictly defining the genre like something more akin to Eyehategod. Their early work has a lot post-hardcore influence and Leviathan is very doomy. And with the past few they have been experimenting with more progressive tendencies at varying degrees. It's hard to place them in a certain category like a lot of modern bands but I don't hear 'groove' metal, or at least what has been typically associated with post-thrash, when I listen to them.

I don't really feel either is fitting.

I'd say that Blood Mountain and the last album certainly had a groove metal sound, but I'd also agree their earlier stuff was too sludgey to count as groove.

Brazilian thrash / crossover band Antitese: http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=9638

I'm hearing this band's full-length right now and it's legitimately thrash / death much like early Sepultura. The vocals alone are just under growls and the guitar tone is wretched as hell - pretty much on the line with thrash / death (more thrash than death, but still containing enough elements to put it in the field.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZeVBKWU2qEo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGlJmVMii5Q&NR=1

Edit: damn that was a fast change! Thanks Witcher!

Here is another that I had to sit through - now my head hurts: http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=101233

This is Animae Capronii. Aside from being pure garbage, it is raw black metal. I've listened to over five albums by this band and they're all raw, rehearsal quality black metal. Only slightly has the production been increased, but thus far I can definitely say this is raw black metal.

I don't have the songs anymore to upload because I chucked them in the garbage after I reviewed them, but here are some of the guy's MySpace samples.

http://www.myspace.com/animaecapronii

None of them are from the albums I reviewed, but I can assure you they all sounded the same or worse.

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So here's another one that I picked up - Exumer: http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=1529

They're labeled as speed / thrash, which is correct, but is it enough to label them as progressive on the end of it? For for their last demo and until the break-up they began playing progressive / groove metal with a thrash edge.

I don't know, what do the mods think?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ogh8es6Uoc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1wr0SXt0NA4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eEuyyNDGuRg

Why are Goatsblood labeled as only grind? There is much influence from grind, but the primary genre is doom metal/sludge in my opinion, so Wouldn't sludge/doom/grind be more accurate? I am pretty sure this isn't pure grind, many of the slow sections in the songs are pretty much the opposite of grind.

Raw black metal is not a separate music style and bands should not be listed as such. Unfortunately they are: I personally hate such tags. Production quality does bnot constitute new subgenre.

Exumer really should not be listed as anything progressive. They played regulat thrash on their last demo, with cetain funk touch, but so did Re-Animator. It is nowhere near Pantera or Machine Head.

I see, well then in the case of Raw black metal there are hundreds of bands that need to be changed back to black metal.

I second this. They had some tag to that effect last time I looked, no idea why it was changed.

It used to have that, but WebOfPiss lobbied to have it changed because the band is apparently totally unrelated to sludge and doom.

For the record, I thought they sounded pretty sludgy, too.

I can't say I agree on this one. To me it is classic Swedish death metal that sometimes borrows from doom by slowing down a bit adding some atmosphere. But most of the time it's fast like standard death metal. I see what you mean by comparing to early My Dying Bride, but in their case it's the other way around: They are doom/death sometimes crossing over in regular death metal.

Other opinions?

Because slow with harsh vocals =/= sludge or doom.

I agree, in fact , i got surprised and confused when the change was purposed and accepted...

And by the way ; Godgory:
http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=1051

I don´t disagree with the "Melodic Death Metal", it has growling vocals, but when i listen to the 2 albums i have, i get the feeling that it is way too "cheesy" just to be labeled that way (slow, clean parts and keys).

It is my opinion that the "Gothic" would fit perfectly as well.

http://www.amazon.com/Way-Beyond-Godgory/dp/B00005NBS5
http://www.amazon.com/Resurrection-Godg ... pd_sim_m_1

If anything, the first two albums were rather gothic. The second two are pretty much melodic death. Gothic / melodic death works.

I really disagree with helvede (and ralfman by extension). I have not counted the seconds, but in my estimation the slow, melancholic parts on "The Ending Quest" outweigh the few sprinkled-in uptempo Swedish DM parts.

Anyone can comment on the Pain of Salvation suggestion some posts above? I'm quite interested in hearing someone's opinion on this.

These bands have the tag "Various" or "Various Influences" in the Genre field. Some of them have at least other genre + various. But is vague and doesn't tell anything about what the bands play.

1. Aneurysm (Ita): Post-thrash Metal with Various Influences
2. C.C.H.B.: Death Metal/Various
3. Dave Byron: Heavy Metal/Shred, Various
4. Excision (Idn): Death Metal (early), Experimental Metal with various influences (later)
5. Faxed Head: Various
6. Gwar: Various
7. Julian's Lullaby: Heavy/Symphonic Metal with various influences
8. Lazarus Long: Doom Metal with various influences
9. Machinae Supremacy: Power Metal with various influences
10. Moon of Sorrow: Atmospheric Doom with various influences
11. Rampage (USA): Various
12. Tribunal (Can): Experimental Death Metal/Various
13. Tunes of Dawn: Gothic Metal with various influences
14. Ultra Vomit: Death Metal/Grindcore (early), Various (later)
15. Zakas: Avant-garde Metal/Various

You need to provide links of each band's music for convenience and give some explanation for each, too.

Sorry I have no time to check them out, I just found out these bands and I think that the "various" stuff must be changed/deleted because doesn't describe anything at all.
That's why I just reported them here just to make the mods know about it. And if someone can help checking out what those bands play would be great.

I'd say the opposite. Most tracks are pretty much old school Swedish death mixed with old school Finnish death. Then there is added some Greg Mackintosh-inspired leads to give it atmosphere in slower parts, but the pace is rarely under mid-pace. Track 6,7 and 10 can be debated, but I'd say death metal overrule on the remaining seven tracks. And the demos were even more straight death metal.

Radigost are currently listed as Doom/Black Metal though if I'm going to be brutally honest I don't hear any doom influence. I think a more suitable description of their music would be Symphonic Black Metal. See links below:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EgxPWEEvXHY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KlFXmOz1JyY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jZJMCqt3MKo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GuTetc7j63M

Do we really need to have CFs Cold Lake era tagged as glam?Because this sounds like thrash to me:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n9nLkO5KFJg
Also consider that Turbo,The Ultimate Sin,Destiny and Eat The Heat each was much closer to glam than CL,yet Priest,Ozzy,Saxon and Accept don't have glam listed as a genre,and that also goes for most glam metal bands featured here (Twisted Sister,Motley Crue,WASP,Skid Row,Keel,Icon,Vyper,TNT etc.).

1. Some of those bands aren't glam at all.
2. Some were close in style but still pretty much heavy metal.
3. Of all the songs to give us, you picked the only good one from Cold Lake. You forgot the rest of the entire album that's miserable, watered down, yuppy simplistic chorus hammers filled with hairspray and perfume. Nothing about the rest of that album is thrash metal, and I've heard the entire thing many times in order to review it.