Is the band a joke or something? If so, I apologize...but it's not like it's THAT obvious. And even if it is a joke, it doesn't change the fact that it's black metal, therefore qualifying to be on this website.

This is a predefined message, which is meant for completely worthless submissions.
The music is not metal, it consists of strange noises.
http://www.myspace.com/fekthreroenuerm

The band has apparently no physical releases.
And when you submiot such band with a 1987 release and stupid additional notes, do not wonder when you are considered to be trolling.

In any case, this does not belong.

You say noise, I (and obviously not just me) say black metal. And there was an official release. There were 13 copies released apparently. It may not be a lot but it's still a release. I didn't mean to cause an uproar, I was just adding a band that wasn't on this site. And since the metal archives is a comprehensive encyclopedia of all metal bands, personal opinions should have no value here. I don't care if you like it or if I like it. It's still black metal and it's still a worthy entry into the encyclopedia. Don't accuse me of trolling just because you don't like the music.

and how were my additional notes "stupid"? I just added what was posted on their own myspace. if you didn't like it then your beef isn't with me, it's with the only credible source on the internet regarding this band: the myspace page.

Yes, your personal opinion has no place here. It is not metal of any kind. It will not be accepted just because you say so. We moderators decide if the music is metal or not and you have to respect it.
Besides that, you have no proof of physical release, what you say does not prove anything. But even when you had it, it would be rejected because it is not metal, but some joke amateurish ambvient noise.
The deciding factor is not the quallity, but the fact that such stuff is not metal musically.

The band had certainly no rellease in 1987, you should not add everything the band fabricates, especially when it is obviously a joke.
They looked like an attempt to troll.

Nobody with a bit of common sense would add something like that:

Fekthreroenuerm is a black metal band from Lithuania. They only released one demo in 1987, "Conquering The Satanic Dominion Between Spectral Storms" and only 13 official copies were pressed and released (although a myriad of bootlegs have been made). Their song "Under the Soulless Luciferian Moonlit Death Mountain" is prime example of the coldness that represented the first wave of Lithuanian NSBM of which this band was the forerunner.

"Conquering The Satanic Dominion Between Spectral Storms" features two vocalists because in the middle of their recording process, the original vocalist killed himself.

do you have any proof that there were no releases in 1987? you state as if you know for a fact that the myspace is wrong.

once again, I did not make up any of the information i sent in. If you have another source other than the myspace, then be my guest, and tell me. i guess i have no common sense in adding the only info i could find on a band, in order to make as comprehensive an entry as possible. i suppose that would fall into the category of idiocy...

you know what, fuck this. i didn't come on here to get bitched at, i was just adding a band that i noticed wasn't here. instead, i have to deal with an unprofessional administrator who steeps as low as to call me "stupid" and lacking common sense. i'll think twice next time i try to do something good for this website....

It is obvious to everybody, that such music and such covers were not produced in 1987 and that the bio and songtitles is pure fiction and parody. Besides that, there was no NSBM in 1987, especially not in Lithuania.

You are not doing something good by trying to add this.
The bio is a stupid joke and you either must be extraordinary naive or a troll in oder to submit that and even tell me here that it is the truth.

everything that has been said between my first post and your last one could have been avoided had you just answered my initial question which was: is this band a joke? i admit, it did seem odd that such a band would come out in 1987 with that type of music considering it would be much ahead of it's time. but at the same time, it's not so obvious that it's a joke. there's barely any information on this band on the whole internet, so excuse me if I failed to notice a not-so-obvious parody. it's not as if this site doesn't have parody metal bands on here anyway. Dark Kirchensteur...

It is obvious to almost everybody. Darkkirchensteuer actually play real structured black metal with guitars and have physical releases.

obvious to almost everybody? that's a very broad statement. for all i know, they could have just messed up the date and meant to say it came out in 1997, making it seem much more legitimate. when you only have one source to go from, it's kinda hard to check up on these things. i'll admit, it's sorta funny now that I know it's fake. but, at first glance, it just appears to be old, lo-fi, shitty black metal.

also, not related to this damn thing we're arguing about, why is a physical release needed? i've seen a fair amount of bands release their first demos and even in a few cases their first full-length via download only. how is that not a legitimate release? just because they chose to take the route of electronically distributing it as opposed to creating a physical copy?

For the purposes of this site, physical copies are more valid than online releases given that it is less likely they will be faked and that it's more likely they will remain relevant in the future. The internet is a wonderful tool, but it's also flawed in that anybody can create a project one month, pump out a few tracks (sometimes not even their own, sometimes haphazardly made), and then disappear completely not long after. There's no lasting footprint of that band. In the event that the internet was gone, there would be no sign that such a band ever existed. More often than not, an extreme event of that magnitude is not even necessary to achieve that end. A deleted myspace page, for example, can lead to the same conclusion when that was all that band ever had.

has the official album

http://wiki.rockinchina.com/index.php?title=Ego_Fall

PLUS, that's the fucking rule!

i realize it's a rule, man....doesn't mean it can't be challenged.

that's valid reasoning. i just think that you could possibly be excluding some good metal bands just because they haven't "physically" released an album.

Before I try submit them, I'm going to hazard a guess that Maruta has been submitted and rejected already?

please, can someone answer me this?

thanks!

days ago i've posted here all the proofs. a guy named Nightgaunt told me that i could submit again. so I resubmitted all the things requested including images and weblinks.

Then resubmit it again.

You are strongly getting on my nerves. So, you have gained veteran status now, but yet do not get our basic rules?!!
First, you can do updates yourself, you do not have to report them now.
Second, every registered user can add albums, that you report new releases is beyond belief.
But read the guidelines and help section on the main page, before you do anything, you urgently need it.

Finally, there were no songsamples for this band. Read rule 7 and the whole guidelines section, at best repeatedly, so you can memorize something.

I had to find them at youtube and it is acceptable. But that was the job of you all, who submit bands, to provide such proofs.

Hello, Awhile back, my black metal project, Treig was rejected. Since then I have released a physical album, and have progressed my sound to be more "metal", therefore I tried to add my project again, and was automatically denied. Is there a way I can be reconsidered to the archives? I was told to come here by Derigin on the Why was X band accepted thread.

Thank you

-T

Hey, just got the mail that Innersight was rejected for no apparent discography. The albums are available for free download, but CDs can be ordered.
From the official site:
"Ha valaki szeretné egy dedikált borítóval, audio minőségben is birtokolni valamelyik albumot, a Bolt menüpont alatt e-mailen megrendelheti a magam által készített CD-ket."

Translation: "If anyone wants to own any of the albums, with a dedicated cover, in audio quality, CD-s made by me can be ordered from the Bolt menu through e-mail."

Edit: I added only the Insight album at first, it's the most metal out of his releases, alongside Meanderings.

Hi!

I received this email:

Sorry MiguelDeth, Encyclopaedia Metallum was forced to reject your submission for the band Dishammer (Spain), for the following reason:

Either there is a lack of information, or this band has no apparent discography. Please see rule #7. If this band has indeed released anything and you can show us proof, you can resubmit it again.

If you would like to object to this rejection, please do so in the appropriate thread in the suggestions and complaints forum. Do not e-mail moderators directly about this.

Sincerely,
Encyclopaedia Metallum

Well, i think that 'Vintage Addiction' is available (or almost) now through the label (http://dishammer.hellsheadbangers.com/). You can check the myspace site for the band (http://www.myspace.com/dishammer) too to see that is a real band.

If it's not valid because the label don't has the MCD yet available through their shop then it doesn't matter, the information can be provided again in that moment!

Cheers, Miguel.

^ please do only submit bands that have releases out. Thank you.

-> rule 7

Ok, no problem, but as far as i know the cds are now circulating! Anyway, i understand you, there is no problem.

Rosetta is an atmospheric sludge/post-metal act in the vein of Isis, Neurosis, Mouth of the Architect, etc. They were in the Metal Archives since they released their first full length "The Galilean Satellites" in 2005. Last year they released their 2nd album "Wake/Lift". They are no longer in the Archives. Why?

http://www.myspace.com/rosetta

Not metal. The atmospheric sludge is in fact experimental hardcore and alternative based music, which has no place here, the music goes in the Deftones vein.
Post-metal is an empty tag, which means nothing and does not describe any valid metal style.

It is really needed to bring up this alternacore band each week, when you have so many pure metal bands to listen to?
This is not the Alternative Rock archives.

Influences: As of 7/23/08: Sleepytime Trio, Frodus, Refused, Gospel, City of Caterpillar

That speaks for itself.

http://www.metal-archives.com/board/vie ... 62#1069262
and follow the discussion over the sites

and here:
http://www.metal-archives.com/board/vie ... 21#1077121

I have been rejected twice for submitting my project called The Wakedead Gathering, with the reason being that there is no proof of a release. If you go to the myspace link that I provided, you will see that I am, in fact, selling a physical copy of the demo, which is out and limited to 50 copies. I don't know how else to provide proof because I submitted track titles and lengths along with the band submission. Please let me know that I can do. Thanks.

Photos of the CD cover and CD would be convincing, assuming the CD is not just a CD-R with writing on it.

It's not. I had it professionally pressed and everything. I submitted the cover art along with the track listing, which I thought would be enough. I'm not trying to argue with the creators or moderators of this site, because obviously they can do what they want, but getting accepted just seems like a ridiculously difficult process when I've provided plenty of proof.

Songtitles do not prove anything. Read rule 7 and what it saysw about myspace. Computer generated cover is also not a bvalid proof. So the only proof in your case would be scan of the whole release, a link to distro that actually sells it or a review in established fanzine which mentions the type of release.

Hi guys, I'm quite in trouble with some borderline bands and, before adding them I'd like that one mod could please give an opinion about those bands! OK, here we go:

Last Minute to Jaffna:
http://www.myspace.com/lastminutetojaffna
Post-Hardcore band, but their first self titled demo has two Sludge tracks really influenced by Neurosis. You can find those tracks on their Myspace: Dawn and Heating The Blood.

Notanumber:
http://www.myspace.com/notanumber0
Simply a Metalcore band, I need some opinions if their Metalcore is "Metal" enough to be accepted on the archive!

Straw:
http://www.myspace.com/straw1
Alternative Metal band influenced by Alice in Chains with some Pantera references. Are they good for the archive?

All of those bands have released at least one demo.

Thanks guys!!!!
Bye!!!!

The post hardcore and alternative bands would be certainly rejected, but please, do not use the thread in this way in the future. Just submit the bands and wait for decision.

ooopppsss, ok! Sincerly I thought that this thread was also intended to discuss borderline bands!

bye!!

Hello,
I tried to make a submission over the weekend that was rejected because of rule #7:

"Sorry krigsstev, Encyclopaedia Metallum was forced to reject your submission for the band Serpent Throne (United States of America), for the following reason:
Either there is a lack of information, or this band has no apparent discography. Please see rule #7. If this band has indeed released anything and you can show us proof, you can resubmit it again. samples, links."

In my submission I included the full details of their first album. However, I didn't include any links in my submission. So before I take the time to resubmit, I was wondering:
1) If I include a link to their Myspace profile (which acts as their official site) and to their record label, would this be enough to get them accepted? Proof of the album can also be found on Amazon.com and CDUniverse.com.
Or...
2) Is there another reason this band was rejected and therefore I shouldn't bother submitting again?

Thanks for your help.

Not thre is no other reason. Samples, links - that is quite clear.

Hey,
I submitted a band called Figure of Fate and got rejected for the reason:
Not metal; does not belong.
... and they are, I found that there is another band with the same name out there that is not metal, maybe thats what happened.

Figure of Fate's Official Myspace:
http://myspace.com/figureoffatemusic